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	<title>Comments on: Morning Bell: No &#8216;Change&#8217; Coming to Corporate Bailout Parade</title>
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		<title>By: Mark H, Springdale A</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9539</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark H, Springdale A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Joseph Karniewicz 
 
The facts are what they are.  How we each interpret the facts is influenced by our past experiences, which causes the bias in our opinion.  If there were no bias, there would be no difference of opinion. 
 
So Mr. Karniewicz is also biased.  Would that make him an extremist, too? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Joseph Karniewicz</p>
<p>The facts are what they are.  How we each interpret the facts is influenced by our past experiences, which causes the bias in our opinion.  If there were no bias, there would be no difference of opinion.</p>
<p>So Mr. Karniewicz is also biased.  Would that make him an extremist, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Karniewicz, A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Karniewicz, A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: The Heritage Foundation 
 
This foundation is biased as are most extremists. Most major newspapers and television stations in the Dallas - Fort Worth metroplex, and Oklahoma for that matter, are biased Republican and anti-union. 
 
I much prefer the plain and simple truth based on actual facts, not fiction. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: The Heritage Foundation</p>
<p>This foundation is biased as are most extremists. Most major newspapers and television stations in the Dallas &#8211; Fort Worth metroplex, and Oklahoma for that matter, are biased Republican and anti-union.</p>
<p>I much prefer the plain and simple truth based on actual facts, not fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Karniewicz, A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Karniewicz, A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For: Bob, Stuttgart, Germany 
 
General Motors has many new advancements and vehicles coming in the near future, if they survive that is. 
 
They have taken many drastic measures to remain in business, and are still doing so. 
 
If GM goes under, my opinion is that Chrysler and Ford will soon follow. If this happens, the suppliers will lose a great deal of their business, and might not survive. That would have a big impact on every other manufacturer being supplied by the same suppliers. 
 
Will there be money available for possible new supplier companies to form? Will decreased volume mean higher prices for those parts? 
 
With decreased competition will the consumer pay more for whatever products are available? 
 
There is still a market for the dinosaur SUV&#039;s. Right now the majority of what we produce in Arlington, Texas is going overseas! Please take into consideration that the exports are even more expensive when duties are added, and yet enough people still want them, that&#039;s why our plant is now on overtime, even with other plants shutting down before Christmas. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For: Bob, Stuttgart, Germany</p>
<p>General Motors has many new advancements and vehicles coming in the near future, if they survive that is.</p>
<p>They have taken many drastic measures to remain in business, and are still doing so.</p>
<p>If GM goes under, my opinion is that Chrysler and Ford will soon follow. If this happens, the suppliers will lose a great deal of their business, and might not survive. That would have a big impact on every other manufacturer being supplied by the same suppliers.</p>
<p>Will there be money available for possible new supplier companies to form? Will decreased volume mean higher prices for those parts?</p>
<p>With decreased competition will the consumer pay more for whatever products are available?</p>
<p>There is still a market for the dinosaur SUV&#039;s. Right now the majority of what we produce in Arlington, Texas is going overseas! Please take into consideration that the exports are even more expensive when duties are added, and yet enough people still want them, that&#039;s why our plant is now on overtime, even with other plants shutting down before Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Karniewicz, A</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9237</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Karniewicz, A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just what have the Conservatives done to prove to the rest of America what really needs to be accomplished in these tough times?  Where were your campaign contributions and advertising promoting the right candidate for the job? 
 
Big bad unions - sheeeesh - You people don&#039;t have a clue. Automotive wages and so called benefits have gone through the roof according to all the &quot;experts&quot;, but the numbers of people working in that industry have also decreased dramatically. A typical GM assembly plant had almost 6,000 salary and hourly workers as late as 1996, then each new contract cut those numbers by approximately half. Robots made up most of the difference in manpower, and the outsourcing of seats, instrument panels, and other major sub assemblies to companies such as Lear resulted in those workers getting only a fraction of the pay and benefits the GM workers were getting. 
 
Have you ever heard of lean manufacturing? GM has gone so lean that they can&#039;t even provide all the vacation time off people want and are entitled to because that would make them too short handed to run production. 
 
The average assembly plant now has about 2,400 hourly and salary workers combined, producing even more vehicles per day than previously! 
 
On top of this, the quality has been vastly improved! 
 
The &quot;jobs bank&quot; was supposed to have been a temporary stop gap measure put in place to stem the loss of jobs by  attrician, and this allowed GM to automate at a much quicker pace and mandate new work rules with the UAW blessing and cooperation. It was meant to be a win - win situation for both, and a necessity in order to survive. 
 
All &quot;foreign&quot; manufacturers are currently offering sales and zero % financing because their sales and profits have also been heading south. Do you blame the union for this too? 
 
Our government has already spent how much of the financial sector bailout funding, and what is there to show for it? 
 
The prime rate has been lowered to almost zero, and what has that accomplished? 
 
Savings account interest rates are a joke. The Canadian dollar is now worth 25% more than ours, and has been continually climbing since 2001. 
 
Japan admitted today that they are in a recession! 
 
Get your heads out of the sand and look around before making wild accusations and spreading outright lies! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just what have the Conservatives done to prove to the rest of America what really needs to be accomplished in these tough times?  Where were your campaign contributions and advertising promoting the right candidate for the job?</p>
<p>Big bad unions &#8211; sheeeesh &#8211; You people don&#039;t have a clue. Automotive wages and so called benefits have gone through the roof according to all the &quot;experts&quot;, but the numbers of people working in that industry have also decreased dramatically. A typical GM assembly plant had almost 6,000 salary and hourly workers as late as 1996, then each new contract cut those numbers by approximately half. Robots made up most of the difference in manpower, and the outsourcing of seats, instrument panels, and other major sub assemblies to companies such as Lear resulted in those workers getting only a fraction of the pay and benefits the GM workers were getting.</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of lean manufacturing? GM has gone so lean that they can&#039;t even provide all the vacation time off people want and are entitled to because that would make them too short handed to run production.</p>
<p>The average assembly plant now has about 2,400 hourly and salary workers combined, producing even more vehicles per day than previously!</p>
<p>On top of this, the quality has been vastly improved!</p>
<p>The &quot;jobs bank&quot; was supposed to have been a temporary stop gap measure put in place to stem the loss of jobs by  attrician, and this allowed GM to automate at a much quicker pace and mandate new work rules with the UAW blessing and cooperation. It was meant to be a win &#8211; win situation for both, and a necessity in order to survive.</p>
<p>All &quot;foreign&quot; manufacturers are currently offering sales and zero % financing because their sales and profits have also been heading south. Do you blame the union for this too?</p>
<p>Our government has already spent how much of the financial sector bailout funding, and what is there to show for it?</p>
<p>The prime rate has been lowered to almost zero, and what has that accomplished?</p>
<p>Savings account interest rates are a joke. The Canadian dollar is now worth 25% more than ours, and has been continually climbing since 2001.</p>
<p>Japan admitted today that they are in a recession!</p>
<p>Get your heads out of the sand and look around before making wild accusations and spreading outright lies!</p>
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		<title>By: The Auto Bailout &#38; The Bankruptcy Myth &#187; The Foundry</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9170</link>
		<dc:creator>The Auto Bailout &#38; The Bankruptcy Myth &#187; The Foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Morning Bell: No &#8216;Change&#8217; Coming to Corporate Bailout ParadeBob, Stuttgart, Germany [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob, Stuttgart, Germ</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9156</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob, Stuttgart, Germ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After much thought, and reading through many of the previous comments, I&#039;ve finally formed an opinion on a possible auto industry bailout: No. No bailout. Why? 
 
In short, if U.S. car companies can&#039;t make cars people want to buy then they should go under.  
 
Now, if the U.S. car companies go under, won&#039;t there be a shortage of cars? I mean, folks will still want cars, won&#039;t they? 
 
And, if there&#039;s a shortage, won&#039;t supply and demand dictate that the more successful car companies will be there to make new cars for people? 
 
And, if these car companies make these new cars for people, won&#039;t this increased demand require new workers to make the cars? 
 
So, won&#039;t many of the U.S. autoworkers be hired to make these new cars? 
 
And, gee, don&#039;t most of our Japanese competitors hire non-union workers right here in America? 
 
So, it sounds to me like U.S. workers will end up doing just fine. And U.S. consumers will as well. 
 
The only loser here will be the unions and the Democrats.  
 
Gee...that doesn&#039;t sound too bad to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After much thought, and reading through many of the previous comments, I&#039;ve finally formed an opinion on a possible auto industry bailout: No. No bailout. Why?</p>
<p>In short, if U.S. car companies can&#039;t make cars people want to buy then they should go under. </p>
<p>Now, if the U.S. car companies go under, won&#039;t there be a shortage of cars? I mean, folks will still want cars, won&#039;t they?</p>
<p>And, if there&#039;s a shortage, won&#039;t supply and demand dictate that the more successful car companies will be there to make new cars for people?</p>
<p>And, if these car companies make these new cars for people, won&#039;t this increased demand require new workers to make the cars?</p>
<p>So, won&#039;t many of the U.S. autoworkers be hired to make these new cars?</p>
<p>And, gee, don&#039;t most of our Japanese competitors hire non-union workers right here in America?</p>
<p>So, it sounds to me like U.S. workers will end up doing just fine. And U.S. consumers will as well.</p>
<p>The only loser here will be the unions and the Democrats. </p>
<p>Gee&#8230;that doesn&#039;t sound too bad to me.</p>
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		<title>By: No Bailout for Automakers &#124; The American Pundit</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9124</link>
		<dc:creator>No Bailout for Automakers &#124; The American Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bad would GM failing really be, anyway? As The Heritage Foundation points out, the company&#8217;s market capitalization is just $2.5 billion. To put that into perspective, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Let The Automakers Go Bankrupt&#8221; &#171; Tariq Nelson</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/11/12/morning-bell-no-change-coming-to-corporate-bailout-parade/#comment-9104</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Let The Automakers Go Bankrupt&#8221; &#171; Tariq Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Heritage Foundation made these suggestions: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim, Michigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim, Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked in the auto industry for the last 20 years, and I think that the bankruptcy option may be the best if it frees them from the grasp of the unions. Too many times I&#039;ve seen useless guys protected from being fired, while good men with real ability and drive are slowly ground down and gradually become tired and bitter. They know they will always be paid the same as the useless guy, no matter how hard they work. The unions had a place at one time in this industry, but now they are just sucking the life out of it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve worked in the auto industry for the last 20 years, and I think that the bankruptcy option may be the best if it frees them from the grasp of the unions. Too many times I&#039;ve seen useless guys protected from being fired, while good men with real ability and drive are slowly ground down and gradually become tired and bitter. They know they will always be paid the same as the useless guy, no matter how hard they work. The unions had a place at one time in this industry, but now they are just sucking the life out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: sichi,Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>sichi,Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still?aoto industry is very important now. their voice should take into consideration </description>
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