Comments on: Morning Bell: Why Georgia Matters http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/ The Foundry promotes conservative policies and principles by offering the best in public policy research with the day’s current events. The Foundry is published by The Heritage Foundation. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:54:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: sgt.red.blue.redhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3950 sgt.red.blue.red Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:37:17 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3950 Ron Kalmeta; RWR would sell em' or give the Georgians whatever it took to expel the soViet interlopers.I new some Kalmetas who lived one block over from me on Poinciana. Ron Kalmeta; RWR would sell em’ or give the Georgians whatever it took to expel the soViet interlopers.

I new some Kalmetas who lived one block over from me on Poinciana.

]]> By: Ron Kalmeta Memphis,MIhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3905 Ron Kalmeta Memphis,MI Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:12:09 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3905 I Only Have One Thing To Say.WHAT WOULD REAGAN DO? I Only Have One Thing To Say.WHAT WOULD REAGAN DO?

]]> By: sgt.red.blue.redhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3878 sgt.red.blue.red Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:05:38 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3878 Jim Delaney of Rochester NY: check out this link!:From The TimesAugust 15, 2008...from Times in UK:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4535173.eceexcerpted from above link:Kremlin dusts off Cold War lexicon to make US villain in GeorgiaCharles Bremner in Moscow Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barak Obama being elected president of the United States..." Jim Delaney of Rochester NY: check out this link!:

From The TimesAugust 15, 2008

…from Times in UK:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4535173.ece

excerpted from above link:

Kremlin dusts off Cold War lexicon to make US villain in GeorgiaCharles Bremner in Moscow
Russians were told over breakfast yesterday what really happened in Georgia: the conflict in South Ossetia was part of a plot by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, to stop Barak Obama being elected president of the United States…”

]]> By: Eileen, Mobile, Alhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3873 Eileen, Mobile, Al Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:54:14 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3873 Vladimir Putin is an evil, manipulator SOB and of course the Time magazines 2008 Time 100, he came in 2nd, Obama came in 3rd. That should have been a warning, if Time is declaring his greatness by having an article written about him by Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright. Just two issues with that are he is a dictator who is a ruthless, tyrannical, politician and former KGB agent. Who can clearly kill you where you stand? He was also involved in the FBIs Robert Hanssen, who was the top counterintelligence agent who was charged with compiling a database of Soviet intelligence for the FBI. He was supposed to have provided information to Mr. Putin about KBG agents who had turned and were working for the FBI, these KBG agents were eventually murdered for their treason. Another name also came up was that of Boris Yuzhin. Personally, I have always distrusted him. He’s certainly one of the names that appears to want to control the world; and, the best way for him to do that is to control the world’s oil. He could be working with Hugo Chavez in order to accomplish that so long as they can destroy the United States in the process. What a great guy, can we send Bill Clinton to speak with him? May he’d keep him, take him hostage, one could always hope.A good question to ask is where is the United Nations, handing out another sanction? Vladimir Putin is an evil, manipulator SOB and of course the Time magazines 2008 Time 100, he came in 2nd, Obama came in 3rd. That should have been a warning, if Time is declaring his greatness by having an article written about him by Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright. Just two issues with that are he is a dictator who is a ruthless, tyrannical, politician and former KGB agent. Who can clearly kill you where you stand?
He was also involved in the FBIs Robert Hanssen, who was the top counterintelligence agent who was charged with compiling a database of Soviet intelligence for the FBI. He was supposed to have provided information to Mr. Putin about KBG agents who had turned and were working for the FBI, these KBG agents were eventually murdered for their treason. Another name also came up was that of Boris Yuzhin. Personally, I have always distrusted him. He’s certainly one of the names that appears to want to control the world; and, the best way for him to do that is to control the world’s oil. He could be working with Hugo Chavez in order to accomplish that so long as they can destroy the United States in the process. What a great guy, can we send Bill Clinton to speak with him? May he’d keep him, take him hostage, one could always hope.

A good question to ask is where is the United Nations, handing out another sanction?

]]> By: John in Arkansashttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3838 John in Arkansas Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:24:01 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3838 Is it me or has anyone else noticed that the so called separatist are in fact members of an Islamist group. Maybe the Russian are being played by the separatist into starting this incursion into Georgian Territory. Is it me or has anyone else noticed that the so called separatist are in fact members of an Islamist group. Maybe the Russian are being played by the separatist into starting this incursion into Georgian Territory.

]]> By: Jim Delaney, Rochester, NYhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3831 Jim Delaney, Rochester, NY Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:58:22 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3831 Bonae Cedar,From all that I have read, unprovoked S. Ossetian rebel attacks on Georgia--not the preliminary Russian cyber attacks on Georgia-- precipitated the crisis. When Georgia quite properly responded, Russia invased, which, of course, was RTussia's plan from the all along. In hindsight, Georgia's defensive response to S. Ossetian attacks can be said to have been a very unfortunate "miscalculation" as Georgia unwittingly fell in the Russian trap. Make no mistake: the imperialist Ruskies orchestrated the crisis. I am pleased to see that Pres. Bush is dispatching "on-going" humanitarian aid to Georgia. Short of military intervention, not much else we can do. But, really, wouldn't it be great if the President would dispatch VP Cheney as well? We can be buoyed by the fact that so many of the former republics, Poland and the Czechs have stood solidly alongside their Georgian brothers. In the long-run, could it be possible that blockheaded Russian bear may have also miscalculated. Here's to Ukrainian membership in NATO. Bonae Cedar,

From all that I have read, unprovoked S. Ossetian rebel attacks on Georgia–not the preliminary Russian cyber attacks on Georgia– precipitated the crisis. When Georgia quite properly responded, Russia invased, which, of course, was RTussia’s plan from the all along. In hindsight, Georgia’s defensive response to S. Ossetian attacks can be said to have been a very unfortunate “miscalculation” as Georgia unwittingly fell in the Russian trap. Make no mistake: the imperialist Ruskies orchestrated the crisis. I am pleased to see that Pres. Bush is dispatching “on-going” humanitarian aid to Georgia. Short of military intervention, not much else we can do. But, really, wouldn’t it be great if the President would dispatch VP Cheney as well? We can be buoyed by the fact that so many of the former republics, Poland and the Czechs have stood solidly alongside their Georgian brothers. In the long-run, could it be possible that blockheaded Russian bear may have also miscalculated. Here’s to Ukrainian membership in NATO.

]]> By: Jim Delaney, Rochester, NYhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3830 Jim Delaney, Rochester, NY Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:38:59 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3830 sgt,Sure hope you're right! But, I fear the American electorate is awash in Obama kool-aid. With commonsense nearly dead and buried here, I am not as hopeful as you are. sgt,

Sure hope you’re right! But, I fear the American electorate is awash in Obama kool-aid. With commonsense nearly dead and buried here, I am not as hopeful as you are.

]]> By: bonae, cedarhttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3820 bonae, cedar Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:52:55 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3820 Yet we understand that it was Georgia that first attacked with military force.A cyber attack is inconsequential and insufficient reason to launch a military operation, if it were, we would be at war with China. Certainly Russia must respect Georgia's Sovereignty and should immediately engage US Diplomats over those matters. The matter of first military strike and action to commence hostilities must be analysed by all Parties to the Conflicts evidence, which may be corrupted by delays of international peacekeepers to the areas suggested by France as EU leadership. There are broad allegations of involvement of 'English Speaking Advisors', this must be clarified if the presence of mercenary advisors were present in Georgia's forces. The rhetoric needs to subside and the FACTS of the Case need to be brought forward by all sides. Contingency planning for Stability of the Georgian Government and Safety of Civilian Populations must be immediately brought forward by all interested parties.A status quo should be established without further incursion and subsequently maintained by agreement of the interested parties.Georgian and Russian military records of August 1 through 7 should be turned over to the International Court. Not to adjudicate immediately in the Cloud of War but to provide reasonable documentation of the widely contested series of events and parties involved in the conflict. Which will inevitably involve many years of legal debate.A public list of Death Toll Identities on all sides. We would certainly question any alegation that the US would be involved in such a sloppy operation and that US defense of the people of Georgia should occur as part of a request by Russia. To calm things down and cooperate to assure stability of Geogia's sovereignty in its distress, even if error in judgement of it's own leadership was the cause behind the conflict. An error in judgement does not preclude the loss of sovereignty of the people of Georgia.In this the International Community must look to Russia to immediately set a responsible example if their allegations of first strike on Russian Citizens is truly the cause behind the incursion into Georgian Territory. If Russia does not comply with this, it is reasonable to believe that their statement on the series of events may more likely be propaganda. This may be equally true of Georgia.In my opinion on the matter. Yet we understand that it was Georgia that first attacked with military force.

A cyber attack is inconsequential and insufficient reason to launch a military operation, if it were, we would be at war with China. Certainly Russia must respect Georgia’s Sovereignty and should immediately engage US Diplomats over those matters. The matter of first military strike and action to commence hostilities must be analysed by all Parties to the Conflicts evidence, which may be corrupted by delays of international peacekeepers to the areas suggested by France as EU leadership. There are broad allegations of involvement of ‘English Speaking Advisors’, this must be clarified if the presence of mercenary advisors were present in Georgia’s forces. The rhetoric needs to subside and the FACTS of the Case need to be brought forward by all sides. Contingency planning for Stability of the Georgian Government and Safety of Civilian Populations must be immediately brought forward by all interested parties.

A status quo should be established without further incursion and subsequently maintained by agreement of the interested parties.

Georgian and Russian military records of August 1 through 7 should be turned over to the International Court. Not to adjudicate immediately in the Cloud of War but to provide reasonable documentation of the widely contested series of events and parties involved in the conflict. Which will inevitably involve many years of legal debate.

A public list of Death Toll Identities on all sides. We would certainly question any alegation that the US would be involved in such a sloppy operation and that US defense of the people of Georgia should occur as part of a request by Russia. To calm things down and cooperate to assure stability of Geogia’s sovereignty in its distress, even if error in judgement of it’s own leadership was the cause behind the conflict. An error in judgement does not preclude the loss of sovereignty of the people of Georgia.

In this the International Community must look to Russia to immediately set a responsible example if their allegations of first strike on Russian Citizens is truly the cause behind the incursion into Georgian Territory. If Russia does not comply with this, it is reasonable to believe that their statement on the series of events may more likely be propaganda. This may be equally true of Georgia.

In my opinion on the matter.

]]> By: Dave, laguna niguel,cahttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3813 Dave, laguna niguel,ca Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:42:50 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3813 Goes to show you, once a communist, always a communist! Funny how the US has always been called "imperialists" by the ignorant koolaid drinking anti-war libs in this country, yet we have NEVER seized and kept ANY territory, unlike Russia and China! Do you few REAL Americans remaining NOW KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS?! Its a very easy answer..LIBERALS who have weakend this country to the point we can hardly stand up, destroyed our economy, destroyed our ability to produce energy for the "engines" which run our entire country, destroyed the morality of our children, destroyed religion in our schools, destroyed our criminal justice system making our police the "real bad guys" so now we have criminals and illegals running wild in our streets killing innocent citizens in every state, destroyed the FAMILY by pushing the joys of homosexuallity down our throats(when we already accepted gays), I mean really we could continue for days! Time to root out and kick out EVERY leftist moron, including the whacked out left wing agenda driven news media in this country which REFUSES TO GIVE US THE TRUTH! OBAMA?! This name should still be an unknown! No experience, no history except writing books about the joys of socialism/Marxism, completely childish and stupid ideas, a whitey hater, an America hater along with his wife(her as First Lady? God help us!). As an American I simply can not believe what has happened to the democratic party! Islam was hijacked by the terrorists, and the democrat party has been hijacked by the communists with whom we have been at war with for YEARS, and now they want to put a communist in the white house!!! Whats next, PUTIN for VP? Goes to show you, once a communist, always a communist! Funny how the US has always been called “imperialists” by the ignorant koolaid drinking anti-war libs in this country, yet we have NEVER seized and kept ANY territory, unlike Russia and China! Do you few REAL Americans remaining NOW KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS?! Its a very easy answer..LIBERALS who have weakend this country to the point we can hardly stand up, destroyed our economy, destroyed our ability to produce energy for the “engines” which run our entire country, destroyed the morality of our children, destroyed religion in our schools, destroyed our criminal justice system making our police the “real bad guys” so now we have criminals and illegals running wild in our streets killing innocent citizens in every state, destroyed the FAMILY by pushing the joys of homosexuallity down our throats(when we already accepted gays), I mean really we could continue for days! Time to root out and kick out EVERY leftist moron, including the whacked out left wing agenda driven news media in this country which REFUSES TO GIVE US THE TRUTH! OBAMA?! This name should still be an unknown! No experience, no history except writing books about the joys of socialism/Marxism, completely childish and stupid ideas, a whitey hater, an America hater along with his wife(her as First Lady? God help us!). As an American I simply can not believe what has happened to the democratic party! Islam was hijacked by the terrorists, and the democrat party has been hijacked by the communists with whom we have been at war with for YEARS, and now they want to put a communist in the white house!!! Whats next, PUTIN for VP?

]]> By: vicki, marco island, floridahttp://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3812 vicki, marco island, florida Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:42:31 +0000 http://blog.heritage.org/2008/08/13/morning-bell-why-georgia-matters/#comment-3812 What will we do if Comrade O gets elected? I can't even imagine. It just is too frightening. What will we do if Comrade O gets elected? I can’t even imagine. It just is too frightening.

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