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	<title>Comments on: Time Wasting on Nuclear Power</title>
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		<title>By: charlesH, Orem Utah</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/07/16/time-wasting-on-nuclear-waste/#comment-2620</link>
		<dc:creator>charlesH, Orem Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liquid fluoride thorium reactors (LFTR).  Nuclear power done the right way.  Nuclear power that everyone can support. 
 
For those of you concerned about nuclear safety and waste products there is a much better alternative. Thorium based (rather than uranium based) nuclear power. This technology was demonstrate in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s but was abandoned because it was much harder to produce weapons grade material (compared to uranium). The military considerations favored the uranium fuel cycle. 
 
More specifically LFTR (liquid fluoride thorium reactors) compared to uranium reactors burn fuel 100x more efficiently without reprocessing, result in ~100x less waste and are inherently safer and should cost less to build. 
 
In addition, since LFTR is a high temp low pressure process it can use water or air cooling. Thus Ut/Nv etc, where water is scarce, could replace it&#039;s coal fired plants with low cost, clean thorium power plants. Much more cost effective and reliable than the wind and solar plants that California is building. (fyi, California&#039;s electricity currently costs 2x Utah&#039;s and they are on a path to keep it that way.) 
 
 
Comparison: Uranium vs Thorium Based Nuclear Power 
 
Uranium LWR : Thorium LFTR 
 
Fuel Reserves (relative) __________________ 1 : 100 (1000s yrs) 
Fuel Mining Waste Volume (relative) ____ 1000 : 1 
Fuel Burning Efficiency _______________ ~1% : &gt;95% 
Radioactive Waste Volume (relative) ______ 40 : 1 
Radioactive Waste Isolation Period __10000yrs : 80% 10yrs, 20% 300yrs 
 
Plant Cost (relative) _____________________ 1 : &lt;1 
Plant Thermal Efficiency _____________ ~33% : ~50% 
Cooling Requirements _______________ Water : Water or Air 
Plant Safety _______________________ Good : Very Good 
Weapons Grade Material Production ____ Yes : No(very hard) 
Burn Existing Nuclear Waste ___________ No : Yes 
Development Status _______ Commercial Now : Demonstrated 
 
 
for more info see 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energyfromthorium.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.energyfromthorium.com/&lt;/a&gt;  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energyfromthorium.com/ppt/thoriumVsUranium.ppt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.energyfromthorium.com/ppt/thoriumVsUranium.pp...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
charlesH (BS Physics) 
Orem, Utah </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liquid fluoride thorium reactors (LFTR).  Nuclear power done the right way.  Nuclear power that everyone can support.</p>
<p>For those of you concerned about nuclear safety and waste products there is a much better alternative. Thorium based (rather than uranium based) nuclear power. This technology was demonstrate in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s but was abandoned because it was much harder to produce weapons grade material (compared to uranium). The military considerations favored the uranium fuel cycle.</p>
<p>More specifically LFTR (liquid fluoride thorium reactors) compared to uranium reactors burn fuel 100x more efficiently without reprocessing, result in ~100x less waste and are inherently safer and should cost less to build.</p>
<p>In addition, since LFTR is a high temp low pressure process it can use water or air cooling. Thus Ut/Nv etc, where water is scarce, could replace it&#039;s coal fired plants with low cost, clean thorium power plants. Much more cost effective and reliable than the wind and solar plants that California is building. (fyi, California&#039;s electricity currently costs 2x Utah&#039;s and they are on a path to keep it that way.)</p>
<p>Comparison: Uranium vs Thorium Based Nuclear Power</p>
<p>Uranium LWR : Thorium LFTR</p>
<p>Fuel Reserves (relative) __________________ 1 : 100 (1000s yrs)</p>
<p>Fuel Mining Waste Volume (relative) ____ 1000 : 1</p>
<p>Fuel Burning Efficiency _______________ ~1% : &gt;95%</p>
<p>Radioactive Waste Volume (relative) ______ 40 : 1</p>
<p>Radioactive Waste Isolation Period __10000yrs : 80% 10yrs, 20% 300yrs</p>
<p>Plant Cost (relative) _____________________ 1 : &lt;1</p>
<p>Plant Thermal Efficiency _____________ ~33% : ~50%</p>
<p>Cooling Requirements _______________ Water : Water or Air</p>
<p>Plant Safety _______________________ Good : Very Good</p>
<p>Weapons Grade Material Production ____ Yes : No(very hard)</p>
<p>Burn Existing Nuclear Waste ___________ No : Yes</p>
<p>Development Status _______ Commercial Now : Demonstrated</p>
<p>for more info see</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.energyfromthorium.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.energyfromthorium.com/</a>  </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.energyfromthorium.com/ppt/thoriumVsUranium.ppt" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.energyfromthorium.com/ppt/thoriumVsUranium.pp.." rel="nofollow">http://www.energyfromthorium.com/ppt/thoriumVsUranium.pp..</a>.  </p>
<p>charlesH (BS Physics)</p>
<p>Orem, Utah</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Pay</title>
		<link>http://blog.heritage.org/2008/07/16/time-wasting-on-nuclear-waste/#comment-2610</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Pay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the technology is proven, I don&#039;t understand why all financing and liability protection can&#039;t be secured from the market without any government guarantees.  Also, the fact that many nuclear proponents want to eliminate or severely restrict the rights of citizens with regard to siting and environmental hearings for nuclear power generating stations indicates to me the essential need for a totalitarian apparatus to secure the industry. You might want to consider why China and Russia seem to be leading the pack, and then decide whether you want to move there to enjoy the &quot;benefits&quot; of nuclear power. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the technology is proven, I don&#039;t understand why all financing and liability protection can&#039;t be secured from the market without any government guarantees.  Also, the fact that many nuclear proponents want to eliminate or severely restrict the rights of citizens with regard to siting and environmental hearings for nuclear power generating stations indicates to me the essential need for a totalitarian apparatus to secure the industry. You might want to consider why China and Russia seem to be leading the pack, and then decide whether you want to move there to enjoy the &quot;benefits&quot; of nuclear power.</p>
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