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  • Global Warming Legislation Not Inevitable

    On the surface it may seem as though the Senate moved closer to “doing something” about global warming since 54 Senators said they would have voted for cloture on Lieberman-Warner last week compared to only 43 votes in favor in 2003. But as the New York Times points out, 10 senators (including liberal Senators from rust-belt states) said they would not have actually voted for final passage of the bill unless it was amended to help industries sensitive to high energy prices. So in the span of five years, the environmentalists only gained one vote. And looking at the political environment ahead, their case will only get weaker.

    Environmentalists believe a big reason they lost last week was because the major environmental groups were not united behind the bill. To get more environmentalists on board, new global warming legislation will have to look a lot more like Rep. Ed Markey’s (D-MA) bill, which sets more stringent emissions caps and imposes even higher transitions costs on businesses trying to reduce carbon.

    Environmentalists seem almost blissfully unaware that energy prices are bound to be even higher next year making a bill that will cost even more jobs than Lieberman-Warner did dead letter. Worse news from the rest of the world increasingly shows that not only would carbon capping hurt the US economy, it would do nothing to stop global warming. Both the BBC and the Guardian have published lengthy reports proving that carbon offsets bought through international markets do nothing to reduce carbon emissions and developing countries like India have been very clear that they will not cut their emissions at the cost of development and poverty alleviation. Without cuts from developing power houses like China and India, US carbon emission reductions are worthless.

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    15 Responses to Global Warming Legislation Not Inevitable

    1. Jibber,CA says:

      Do you Support or Oppose the position that man is significantly responsible for Global Warming or believe it is a natural planetary cycle? Toss your brick to your elected offical at bricktoss.com.

    2. zap Louisiana says:

      i have lived here 48 years the weather has never changed!maybe it is a yankee thing.if global warming is true you should be able to grow more corn in the winter!This will also stop yall from migrating to Florida in the winter. It will be nice and warm. p.s we should limit all computer use to one half hour a day.This will save energy! Please tell this to algore for me.

    3. zap Louisiana says:

      i have lived here 48 years the weather has never changed!maybe it is a yankee thing.if global warming is true you should be able to grow more corn in the winter!This will also stop yall from migrating to Florida in the winter. It will be nice and warm. p.s we should limit all computer use to one half hour a day.This will save energy! Please tell this to algore for me. thank you.

    4. Annoymous says:

      Hi Im Random! =]

    5. owl, toronto says:

      Carbon capping is not the same as buying offsets. Cap and trade worked effectively in curbing acid rain emissions. Your final comment indicates the US is waiting for leadership from China and India. Congrats, you're cheering for the response getting weaker as the pollution gets worse.

    6. miggs, illinois says:

      The posts at this blog keep ignoring the fact that SOME ways of reducing carbon emissions would actually help the economy. We need to reduce the monopoly protections given to utilities, which keeps our energy system utterly inefficient. I'm associated with Recycled Energy Development (Recycled-Energy.com) and our job is to cut manufacturers' greenhouse emissions while also cutting their energy costs. If it doesn't do both things, we don't do the project. The only inhibitor is these pro-utility, anti-market regulations. A good climate change bill would either ease such market distortions or compensate for them.

    7. Roger Vanderlely, Au says:

      Like it or not much of the world unfortunately seems to follow the lead of the Americans. The US Government is in the spotlight and they need to make the right decisions, and they need to make them NOW.

      Home solar installations and Toyota Priuses will not solve the problem of climate change. A paradigm shift in energy production and the way our economies work is required.

      Roger from <a href="http://www.green-planet-solar-energy.com

      "&gt ;http://www.green-planet-solar-energy.com

    8. Dante Fadrilan, Phil says:

      This anthropogenic global warming is a waste of energy. It is the creation of people who have a lapses of sensoral perception of nature or environmental behavior. Perceived warming is a natural cycle dictated by the sun. We cannot even forecast the number of hurricane that well send havoc on a certain region; or a developing earthquake that will going to strike like a 9/11; how much more of an increasing cool or hot climate on a global season.

      Better to advise Lieberman-Warner or Barbara Boxer to abandon their climate security bill and channel instead their energies on how they can contribute to lessen the effect of world food crisis.

    9. Bobby Iwabucci says:

      It is incredibly arrogant to believe that man is more powerful than the sun–the day that congress or the executive branch enacts legislation on behalf of "global warming" or "global cooling" to control and curtail the rights of Americans is the day that said government officials will receive a full metal jacket squarely between the eyes.

    10. cody, ohio says:

      @Zap

      "I have lived here 48 years the weather has never changed!maybe it is a yankee thing.if global warming is true you should be able to grow more corn in the winter!This will also stop yall from migrating to Florida in the winter. It will be nice and warm. p.s we should limit all computer use to one half hour a day.This will save energy! Please tell this to algore for me. thank you."

      Even if you have lived in Louisiana for the last 48 years, you cannot truthfully say that the weather has not changed. Also, FYI, 40 years age global warming wasn't even a thought, and only in recent years have scientists noticed major changes in climate. (Maybe thats because for the last 40 years people have emitted millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere on a daily basis) And no, just because the earth is warming does not mean you can grow corn in the winter. This kind of thing does not happen overnight. Eventhough the earth is warming, that doesn't mean that tomorrow it will be 200 degrees. (In another 100 years it could be possible though)

      If there is one point that you have mentioned that I agree with, it would be that we DO need to limit our use of energy consuming appliances. (i.e. computers) What would it hurt to actually shut down a computer when you're finished for the day?

      I guarantee that if you lived in a cold climate your view of global warming would change. (As if Katrina wasn't enought evidence)

      But what do you care, you'll be dead in another 50 years, right?

      Try telling that to your children.

    11. cody, ohio says:

      @Dante Fadrilan

      "Better to advise Lieberman-Warner or Barbara Boxer to abandon their climate security bill and channel instead their energies on how they can contribute to lessen the effect of world food crisis"

      Isn't major DROUGHT and FLOODING a contributing factor to the world food crisis? I mean, the last time I checked, you aren't able to grow crops in a climate where temperatures are 10-15 degrees higher than average… JUST A THOUGHT!

      unbelieveable.

    12. Dan, Platteville CO says:

      "As gas prices continue to increase, Congress continues to blame others while ignoring practical steps to stop the pain Americans are feeling at the pump. To lower gasoline prices and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, we need real solutions to our energy challenges. "

      DRILL HERE. DRILL NOW. PAY LESS. SIGN THE PETITION!

      http://WWW.AMERICANSOLUTIONS.COM

    13. David, FL says:

      I have to make a slight correction.

      You wrote "Without cuts from developing power houses like China and India, US carbon emission reductions are worthless."

      US carbon emission reductions would not be worthless, because we are currently the second largest emitter, directly behind China.

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    15. Bill, IN says:

      If we ceased all carbon dioxide emissions today, it would be insignificant. It has been shown in ice cores from Greenland and Antartctica that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increases for 800 to 1000 years after a particularly warm period. It also decreases after a cool period. There is a huge exchange between oceans and atmosphere which is a very very slow process. What was going on a thousand years ago? Perhaps the Medieval warm period (lasted about 400 years)??? I wonder why the Vikings who discovered and farmed Greenland, called it GREENland! Get the hint? We are being scammed by a bunch of environmentalists and folks that are very concerned over something they know absolutely nothing about. Lets work for the real solution. Get out from under the influence of foreign oil!!!

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