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June 9, 2008 . writes:

more proof that Obama is an Evil evil man who will destroy the country.

June 9, 2008 Jay (Michigan) writes:

Ron Paul for President! End the “lesser of two evils” philosophy!

June 9, 2008 Jack G, MD writes:

This man is insane. He wants to control every bit of our lives. I believe everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. He has two faces.
When are the citizens of this country going to wake up and realize that their rights are slowly being taken away and with Obama as president it will only eccelerate.

June 9, 2008 Sara, NYC writes:

So then there should not be any issue with moving forward on a US Citizen registry and a voting registry either..correct? Or will that not philander to the corrct group for votes?

June 9, 2008 David, Georgia writes:

Folks in the securities industry have had to be finger printed for decades. Nobody seems to have any issue with that. And have not many scoundrels migrated from securities to mortgages, to find their victims? In fact, there seems to be a sort of melding or mixing between some parts of these two industries. To be sure, I am no fan of either Obama or Feinstein, but the concept of registering finger prints for anyone involved in any aspect of the banking industry is not out of line. In all three industries in which I have worked — securities, insurance, and alcoholic beverage manufacturing — I have had to supply finger prints.

June 9, 2008 j writes:

We are on the path to the end of our Democracy! “There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.” - John Adams

June 9, 2008 vince brusio, sykesville, maryland writes:

So how is it the Dems want to bust George Bush for wiretapping, but it’s ok for Diane Feinstein to ask me to turn over my fingerprints?

At what point did we re-define the word “privacy” for our dictionairies?

Vince Brusio
doomsong@yahoo.com

June 9, 2008 Rich LA writes:

Ditto.

June 9, 2008 Obamination writes:

And this from a man who is willing to leave our borders wide open to all thugs and all comers. We will fingerprint US citizens and narrow their liberties while 30million people are here illegally and enjoying a free ride in healthcare, schools and even owning property, while illegal.
Are we ^*&(_(_)_^ nuts?????

June 9, 2008 mark t davies ft worth tx writes:

we should end our democracy and reofrm our government as a repubic, and make military service plus a similar organizaton to do national infastucture as an option both with miserable pay to be a mamber of the republic, there by ending the vote of the worst generation that has helped fuel and propel our problems with their me 1st attitudes

June 9, 2008 Mark, NC writes:

Liberals have the audacity to accuse George W. Bush and Republicans of eroding our rights, when in fact it is liberals who seek to federally regulate us into a tyranny without rights.
THX1138 here we come!

June 9, 2008 matt, new jersey writes:

Sarah,

You forgot to mention National Gun Registry and based on your comment, you probably wanted to include that one too. As an aside, the word you meant to use was “pander,” not “philander.” Pandering is what Obama does to MoveOn.org and philander is what Bill Clinton does was interns.

June 9, 2008 James, Rhode Island writes:

God help us if he is elected. And McCain is no better. Where are the libertarians?

June 9, 2008 cece, california writes:

I have news for you. California has required this of Brokers,Real Estate agents, and Notaries for years. I am a broker and have no problems with it, maybe it will eliminate the loan officers that shouldn’t be giving financial advice because they don’t have a license and force Brokers to hire only those that have gone through a Department of Justice background check.

June 9, 2008 Bill writes:

Anyone here ever read, _The_Road_to_Serfdom_? All this is the central planning path to the “perfect” society. However, it is THEIR society and not yours that will be implemented. The end justifies the means, just as Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, and the rest have occasioned in the past.

Teachers get finger-printed and have a background check and look at the occurences there. Finger-printing and background checks do nothing UNTIL after the culprit is ever caught. None of this will have an effect on anything but making sure the government knows who YOU are.

June 9, 2008 Brian, Colorado Springs, CO writes:

There is nothing wrong with this. I have been an insurance adjuster for a decade, and there are states that already require a finger print registry. This cuts down on fraud and abusive tacticts towards consumers. This is not a step in the wrong direction. Big brother is not attacking you. How do you think half these mortgage issues began?

Unless you are being fraudulent or taking place in illegal activities, this should not bother you.

June 9, 2008 Jake, Oklahoma writes:

This sounds exactly like the type of thing that the Bush authored PATRIOT Act would support. Why do conservatives think this type of action is perfectly fine if it comes from a Republican, but “evil” if it comes from a Democrat?

June 9, 2008 Brian, Colorado Springs, CO writes:

Wow, do you guys even know the facts?

Ummm… McCain is an ALIEN! And Cindy is a Transvestite, and they want to rule our planet and take away our “rights”!!!

That’s pretty much how rediculous your posts sound.

You can’t prove what your are asserting any more than you can disprove what I am asserting.

June 9, 2008 Kody writes:

As an Obama supporter, this truly saddens me. The sole reasoning of my democratic registration is because of the invasion of states rights and personal freedoms imposed by the current wave of Republican thinking. I hate to say it, but this bill aligns itself with every other invasion of privacy the left screams bloody murder about.

Get on the horn to your reps (either chamber, either side of the ailse) and let them know that this disgusts you and goes against everything that liberals, libertarians, and roots republicans stand for. What a crock!

June 9, 2008 JD Houston writes:

He so far to the left, he is a Marxist.

June 9, 2008 charles writes:

I have mixed feelings about this. What David, Georgia stated makes sense to me. In some areas of the free market, fingerprinting is prudent to control white collar criminal activity. But this step that Obama supports is a political statement trying to point all the blame on the housing crisis to lenders and not allowing much of the blame to go to the borrowers who bought more house than what they could afford. I fear that the Democrats will pass more laws to limit the free market. Today’s Democrats are international socialists at heart.

June 9, 2008 mark edward marchiafava Louisiana writes:

David in Georgia is a prime example of what is wrong with this country. He has NO problem with MY rights being violated. Geez.

June 9, 2008 Bill, Texas writes:

Why mortgage lenders need to be finger printed, or any other profession for that matter is beyond me. My licensed profession also has had to be fingerprinted, but after that, no one asks for my fingerprints. What is the rationale? Someone is amassing a data base of finger prints, why?

June 9, 2008 paul, maryland writes:

What I find hard to believe is that everyone wants the government to be there for them when they need it, but yet want to remain anonymous. You can’t have it both ways. We need a national ID.

June 9, 2008 John writes:

I see it’s not O.K. to require people seeking licenses to provide their fingerprints but it’s perfectly fine for the feds to listen in on Domestic telephone calls. You people are idiots.

June 9, 2008 Greg, N.W. Indiana writes:

To David of Georgia,

I am just a Sales Guy, selling Industrial Equipment, go ahead take my prints, it doesn’t mean anything,

take my driving rights, I can use public transport,

take my house, the government can use it better…

take my ….., OH CRAP! I am out of everything now..

When will it stop! When will the government QUIT TAKING OUR RIGHTS!.

Does not matter which side! Dems or Repubs, they both want our Rights so they can tell us what to do and pay them the privilege to do it.

As Sara says, the Voting Registry and the US Citizen Registry should NOT be a problem. Don’t worry Dave, nobody should have issues with it.

VOTE FOR NEITHER THIS YEAR!

June 9, 2008 Sarah writes:

Obama is an OBAMINATION to this country.

June 9, 2008 peter writes:

######### WARNING WITH OBAMA MARXISM AND BIG GOV/BROTHER IS COMING BACK ###########

OBAMA THE NEXT LENIN

June 9, 2008 Ryan, NYC writes:

Dear Heritage Foundation,

As a member of the Foundation, please used any scorched-earth tactics necessary to stop this foolishness dead in its tracks.

Sincerely,
Someone-who-will-not-be-fingerprinted.

June 9, 2008 RCA, Dallas writes:

Agreed…

… “Osama Obama” is frightening, and totally without any qualifications for the job (compare Romney’s resume to see a person who is really quallified - perhaps more than anyone who’s ever run for the office). “Osama Obama” can’t even spell the word “economics,” let alone understand it. And… “The McCainiac” is no better!

Though… I guess… If we’re going to “fingerprint” anyone, it would be “the bankers,” “the lawyers,” and “the policitians” - they’re all corrupt, and likely to end up in prison anyway!

God… I love… writing “kooky comments.”

June 9, 2008 Jan Walsh writes:

This is just a warning sign of things to come if Obama is elected. It worries me that people don’t understand that being this far to the left is one step away from socialism, and a lack of freedom for all us, regardless of race. Wake up, Amereica! Obama is anti-American, and this means more government, less freedom, and a steady decline of the prosperity our forefathers have died for.

June 9, 2008 Doug, Maryland writes:

Jake

The wiretapping was done to catch terrorists, while this is done to, well, uh, hell, I don’t know.

I’m not thrilled with the wiretapping, but is worse, in my opinion. This is definately not federal jurisdiction.

June 9, 2008 frank, USA writes:

Say no to finger printing mortgage lenders! These are the truest most hunky Americans of all! Vote McCain

What next? finger prints for police officers! This is an outrage #1 big time! I will contact my local mayor and vote no on this bill!

June 9, 2008 DK, Chicago writes:

In certain states, like Illinois, you already have to do this anyway.

June 9, 2008 Ron, Tennessee writes:

For Mark T Davies in Fort Worth, the United States of America is a Republic, not a Democracy. Check out the constitution, it might surprise you.

June 9, 2008 jc, Las Vegas, NV writes:

This will make it easier to keep track of criminals, pedophiles and illegal immigrants.
In a lot of states you have to give up a thumb print to get a driver’s license. Lots of companies do background checks and for security purposes you give up your fingerprints.
All this bill is doing is putting that information into 1 database for easy access, nothing more nothing less.
Leave it to the pundits to point fingers and wave the ’scary’ flag behind nothing.

June 9, 2008 Volt writes:

Communism is on the way, thanks to Obama.

June 9, 2008 robertv writes:

More proof that Liberalism and Fascism are related. Liberalism with all its good intentions morphs into fascism. Restricting liberty, enforcing re-distribution of wealth is what liberals think is “fair”. What you wind up with is a minority dictating to the majority, regardless of what that majority demands.

June 9, 2008 RobertG, Arizona writes:

Fascism is coming at us from all sides isn’t it? Don’t think so? Take John’s comment
“John writes:
I see it’s not O.K. to require people seeking licenses to provide their fingerprints but it’s perfectly fine for the feds to listen in on Domestic telephone calls. You people are idiots.”
John, These are both Fascist ideas. You give people power over you and they WILL abuse it. The more power the more abuse. Patriot Act, Gun Registration, DNA data base, self-written warrants, warrantless entries are indeed Fascist and I do not care if the person doing so calls himself Progressive, Liberal or Conservative. If they have that power over you they are indeed Fascist.
Hitler, Mussolini, Lennin and Stalin were more alike than different. And every one of those murderous thugs believed they were making their country and the world a better place. And people gave them that power to make the world a better place. Be careful and trust you.

June 9, 2008 frank mack, boston writes:

Nothing to see here, …. move along.

June 9, 2008 Brian, Philadelphia writes:

It should come as no surprise to anyone that the government is becoming increasingly capable of collecting information and exploiting it using modern technology. It is inevitable. The technology is relatively inexpensive, and even life-long bureaucrats can figure out how to use it. It is only getting easier and cheaper, and takes less and less permission to use. Resisting it is a losing battle, like trying to hold back a flood.

The right way to maintain cherished liberties is to make sure the government is strictly limited in it’s ability to affect peoples lives. Government is increasingly the problem, and almost never an effective or efficient problem solver. I suggest we stop letting the government handle our money, and make it do whatever it can manage with money collected from permitting international trade, as it was not so long ago, before the income tax.

If congress had to choose between a salary and collecting fingerprints of mortgage processing clerks, I think our patriotic legislators would have a whole different set of priorities.

Let’s keep the monster under control by starving it…

June 9, 2008 David, Westminster, Maryland writes:

OOH! OOH! And I hear his middle name is some kind of Muslim thing! He’s clearly trying to take over the country with his cleverly disguised Marxist Muslim extremism!

Get over yourselves! Obama is so much better than the idiot son of the aristocracy who currently disgraces this country on a daily basis. You talk about curtailing freedom because Obama wants a fingerprint registry for Mortgage originators? PUHLEEZ. I work in the financial services industry and had to be printed to work at my job. It’s a security measure. We don’t want crooks handling people’s retirment money nor, presumably, do we want them involved in loan origination. Do some reading–NOT on this site, since it’s clearly run by wingnuts–and get a clue.

Incidentally, I’ll take a fingerprint registry for mortgage loan originators ANY day over the suspension of habeas corpus…which has already happened under Bush.

And, finally, I love how y’all right-wingers talk of socialism when it comes to anything you disagree with. What about the socialised costs of business? I mean, who cleans up the superfund sites? And with whose money? If you don’t know the answer to that, then you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

-d-

June 9, 2008 Ed from Kansas writes:

He wants to do what? But the Democtats don’t want to require I.D. to vote? God help us all!

June 9, 2008 Carl...Victoria, Tx writes:

NOW do you understand why Ron Paul is so important? Paul is the only one who understand the Constitution and its protections of liberty.

June 9, 2008 Jamie, CO writes:

Way to post all of the information about the bill. Your spin on the issue is very clear. I am not in support of the bill but you have to include all of information not just the facts that help your case. Its called fair journalism.

June 9, 2008 Todd, Idaho writes:

Marxist.
Supporting documentation: “The Communist Manifesto.”
10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[4]

June 9, 2008 Khali, Maine writes:

When was Obama in the Senate long enough to vote for anything. Hey! Can he get Direct-Tv with those ears??

June 9, 2008 ChaCha, Tennessee writes:

Ugh, Obama encourages people to do nothing and promises BIG government will do everything for them. Ridiculous. It’s all about his power and he can’t have any unless people give up theirs. There are some very sad, pathetic and uniformed people in this country. It’s a shame a socialist like Obama is so close to becoming POTUS. Be afraid, be very afraid…

June 9, 2008 RP Foster, Franklin TN writes:

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

Too much of our Freedoms are being consumed by Government. A Freedon easily given away, usaully is never returned.

R.P. Foster

June 9, 2008 Merridiane, Mississippi writes:

Gee, what is the big problem? We already have a national registry. It is called a Social Security Number. Why would we need a fingerprint registry too? Big Brother watching maybe?

June 9, 2008 Mike C writes:

The problem is that reps from both parties voted for this, look at the vote, 19-2 with only two Republicans voting against it. This is part of the blame game that the media and our politicians are using in this “crisis.” A crisis that a monkey could have predicted had you seen the credit scores of a subprime borrower. As a broker I used to ahake my head and tell people that you or I wouldn’t lend these borrowers the money to buy a cup of coffee, they never paid anything on time in their life and now everyone else is being asked to pay the price. You can’t even refi most of these borrowers out of trouble because when you look at their credti report they’ve gone and fiananced a new car, or my favorite, the Harley Davidson loan. Why should I be fingerprinted because of that? And just because others in the financial and insurance industies have already been fingerprinted doesn’t make this or that right either. This is supposed to be a FREE country, but day by day it’s being stolen from us by both sides of the isle.

June 9, 2008 James, Milwaukee, WI USA writes:

Yes, the article is right. Fingerprinting these is wrong. What we should do is get a BUCCAL Swab of their DNA. Fingerprints are SO 19th century!!

June 9, 2008 mary right writes:

Let’s see now, we take footprints of all babies born in the U.S. then give them a Social Security number.

We take fingerprints from all those arrested. We also take DNA from all felons.

We install X Ray scanners at airports to do full body scans so see inside your rectum and “other places”.

We have wiretaps on your phone. We can to a warrent less search on your home. We call in the dogs when you are stopped for, speeding?, rear light out?, crossing the center line without signal?, whatever else an officer can think up??? Any money found while traveling with it on vacation becomes property of the state!

And they had to cause 9/11 so we could go under lock down?

Home of the free!!!

June 9, 2008 DumbedDownByNCLB writes:

OK, lets avoid the facts that The Federal Housing Finance Regulatory Reform Act of 2008 was a bipartisan bill that was passed overwhelmingly in committee 19-2.

The truth is that:

Obama wrote the whole thing.

Obama is black

Obama hates freedom

Obama is a muslim

Obama has a Che poster in his office

Obama rhymes with Osama, and Barack rhymes with Iraq

Obama convinced the Banking Committe (which he isn’t a part of) to pass this

Obama is actually all of these people

Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT) Richard C. Shelby (R-AL)
Tim Johnson (D-SD) Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)
Jack Reed (D-RI) Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)
Evan Bayh (D-IN) Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Tom Carper (D-DE) Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ) Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI) Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH) Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Robert P. Casey (D-PA) Bob Corker (R-TN)
Jon Tester (D-MT)

MOST IMPORTANTLY, HE IS BLACK!

June 9, 2008 dbdenver writes:

Each small incremental loss of freedom all add up in the long run and become the end of this country as we know it if we let it continue. Only criminals should have their fingerprints taken. Pretty soon, we’ll need to submit to buy food. My daughter needs to have her’s taken so she can volunteer with the children at church??? Wake up America. Shut off the sit com’s and see what is happening.

June 9, 2008 Memphis TN writes:

I dont support Obama. However, isn’t it interesting that the people complaining about this topic never once complain about fingerprinting in the securities industry or if you work for the government. So what makes the mortgage industry different than the securities industry? They deal directly with money and have alot of shady deals we read about everyday. Just look at the high risk prime & variable lending practices have directly on our economy. We are now in a recession due in part because of them. I have worked in the securities industry for several years and had to get fingerprinted in order to practice in the financial business. The residential industry is now realing from the effects of their disasterous practice. The Federal Reserve & Government are having to bail them out. Top management gets to keep their jobs, salaries, and golden parachutes while we “the people” pay for their mistakes. So if the government who is bailing out the residential industry now wants to regulate them-They deserve it!

June 9, 2008 ItsGonna Get-WORSE, USA writes:

Big brother is watching.
Orwellian times approaching.
WHERE are the cries about ‘our rights’???

Evil man? as in AntiChrist? maybe…

“show me your friends and I’ll show you your future”

God BLESS America!!!

June 9, 2008 Mary-Beth, Whitney TX writes:

“Jake, Oklahoma writes:
This sounds exactly like the type of thing that the Bush authored PATRIOT Act would support. Why do conservatives think this type of action is perfectly fine if it comes from a Republican, but “evil” if it comes from a Democrat?”

Why do you think most conservatives don’t want the PATRIOT ACT? Ron Paul is the only candidate not “controlled” by Bildebergers. Now - you get it.

June 9, 2008 Fred, Maryland writes:

Teh big issue I have with this is that it is the FEDERAL government requiring and estabishing this database. I can understand why a STATE government in its regulatory process might wnat such a database, but I can see no reason for the feds to have one - unless, of course, it si a test project to develop a FEDERAL ID and fingerprint and DNA sample us all - As far as the Democrats go, one only has to look at the state of Maryland to see how even “little brother” cna take away rights, our governor, Martin O’Mallwy, wants to take DNA samples from every person charged for any crime, regardless of guilt or innocence. Now, hwat do you think the government is going to do with that information?

June 9, 2008 Thinking Person writes:

Get a grip people - you have a problem with registering your fingerprints - have something to hide, huh? I need you to tell all those families whose kids are kidnapped and murdered each year and all those victims of crimes who became (or are going to become) victims in the first place because these criminals can’t get caught - i need you to tell these victims and their families why you’re against this.

June 9, 2008 James Bond writes:

Obama is not a Marxist. Stop spreading fear or should I ask, How much is Karl Rove paying you? I have no problem hassling bankers and mortgage people, because the don’t mind hassling you when it comes to your money and theirs. Think of all the hoops they make you jump through to get a mortgage, or all the people the ripped off with the “INTEREST ONLY LOANS”. I say what goes around comes around.

June 9, 2008 LOL writes:

Someone wrote: “WARNING WITH OBAMA MARXISM AND BIG GOV/BROTHER IS COMING BACK”…

Wouldn’t we all prefer to have the MARX BROTHERS come back and skip all this ugliness??? LOL.

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

Seig Hiel! Hussein!

June 9, 2008 Dan, Phoenix, AZ writes:

Some of you blogger need to get a grip. Finger printing is use for medical record technology.

June 9, 2008 MG Brown Fort Worth, TX. writes:

I’ve never once seen a set of fingerprints stop a criminal from committing a crime! Criminals are just that, criminals. They flaunt the rules and harm people. They care not one bit that Big Brother (which keeps getting bigger) has a set of their prints.. Just another feel good measure brought to you by our friendly neighborhood Socialist!

June 9, 2008 SEW writes:

But let the terrorists communicate freely with each other! Barry08

June 9, 2008 GB writes:

To all of you that are still delusional:
This country stopped being a traditional democracy a long time ago. We live in a different age. This is an age when exercising common decency and being morally upright are viewed as a weakness. I live in NYC and I see evidence of this everyday.
And besides, being fingerprinted does not mean that our liberties are being taken away either. It is simply a safeguard; it will keep those morally bankrupt citizens in check and prevent their virus from spreading. Every teacher, every social worker that deals with children, and many others must be fingerprinted. Do you hear them crying “FOUL”. You already have a number that the government uses to identify you no matter where you go. Whats the difference?

June 9, 2008 Graham Chicago writes:

David Georgia, I am a Financial Analyst and I agree with you about figer printing in our industry. Industry however, is not government. That is the scary part!

June 9, 2008 Walter- USA writes:

What is on her arm?
Looks like lizard skin.

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

It will all be ok Obama knows best…He’ll take care of you. “_______(fill in the blank with your favorite oppressed group) shouldn’t have to suffer any more because of the failed Bush policies” And “________(fill in your favorite cause) is something I believe should be cured/solved/ or irradicated”
I could right his speeches in my sleep. The sad fact of the matter is we US Americans are going to elect Barack HUSSEIN Obama president BECAUSE he is black. Not because of any experience or because of any plans he may have (hasn’t explained any ways of acheiving his goals). Well hopefully the next Next Liberal, Socialist leaning, Elitist, Racist, that runs for high office will be run out of town, even if he is black. BTW for all you “hate America First” types. the olympics is coming, check the opening cerimonies for all the “diversity” of all those “free thinking” countries you love so much.

June 9, 2008 Jason, Fort Lauderdale, Florida writes:

As with gun control legislation, only law-abiding citizens obey laws. Those wishing to circumvent the law will find the ways and means to do so. In the process, law-abiding citizens will be required to relinquish their right-to-privacy in order to do business. And the old mantra will be used once again; “If you’re not doing anything wrong, why would you have a problem with it?”

June 9, 2008 Spencer writes:

You people are all insane, chicken littles. Get a grip, get a clue and everyone just relax. Put down the copy of 1984 take a look at the facts about what we already do in this country and the good has brought. Wow, I have never visited this site before and now I know why. You are all insane.

June 9, 2008 Dave, Longwood FL writes:

Get rid of Martinez NOW! What An A$$. Dan from Phoenix needs to learn about the US Constitution and freedom that he is happy to give to the govt. Dude, wake up.

June 9, 2008 FATBOB writes:

Yeah we need to fingerprint the “mortgage lenders” but not the “illegal voters”… to liberal Marxists like Obama, that makes perfect sense! Another fine example of moonbat moral relativism!

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

Perhaps if we just had a camera inserted directly in our Arse’s, the world would be a safer place. and just think no more colon cancer as a bonus!! woo woo !

June 9, 2008 OilForAMerica writes:

Can you say COmmie?

June 9, 2008 Dave, NJ writes:

Hmmmm……….first Obama states that he couldn’t leave his church because it would be like dis-owning the black community…or his ‘white’ Grandma……….

Of course he now leaves……dis-owning the black community and his ‘white’ Grandma…….

Now he wants even more Government and more intrusion into everyones lives…..the mortgage brokers are found out AFTER the crime has already been commited. What justification can there possibly be?

Where does ‘required’ finger-printing end???

June 9, 2008 P-Low writes:

It’s Gonna Get Worst, only if people like you are allowed to blog. Some people don’t even deserve the right especially the ones who go around dropping statments to stir up trouble. It’s strange how these people never do their own dirty work but always inject hatred and fear into the equation. Why don’t you and othere like you just shut the %$%##$@ up! You had your chance and look where it has gotten us.

June 9, 2008 Wayne B writes:

Marxist! He passes the tests, walks like a Marxist, Talks like a Marxist, votes like a Marxist….. IS a MARXIST.

June 9, 2008 P-Low writes:

GW - YOU COULDN’T EVEN SPELL HIS SPEECHES IN YOUR SLEEP.

June 9, 2008 Brian - Wisconsin writes:

Based on the many patriotic sentiments expressed here, I believe the American People have realized that we’ve lost the Republic and must fight to get it back. Sad that it took this long but promising in that it appears many of us still love and understand what it means and what it takes to be a free people.

June 9, 2008 Kody writes:

When I watch those games I will be amazed by how a country that has such little diversity can think so freely, yet in a country like ours that is the most diverse anywhere we still can’t get past the thinking of generations past. I think America’s best years are still in front of her. Once all you washed up, inverted thinking, self serving, blind faith loving, hypocrite, faux-patriots die off a new generation will be able to looking forward because they won’t have the lifetime of hate that we have had to suffer through and look back on with regret and resentment.

June 9, 2008 Jack, New York writes:

JP Morgan Chase as of 6/7 requires fingerprints on payroll checks to cash the check in the branch. My employees had to do this last Fri. Inkpads at the teller windows. These checks are then scanned into (fill in the blank). Any other banks do this?? God help us all

June 9, 2008 Jean-Ohio writes:

Nurses and nurses aids all must submit their fingerprints to get their licenses.
To those who try to spread rumors to scare people about Obama, I must say I voted for JFK. He was a Catholic and no President had been a Catholic.

We had the same scare tactics then. All I heard was what a “scary man” he was. The Pope would run the country. Birth control ( which was quite new) would be outlawed. Women would be forced to have a dozen children to increase the number of Catholics in this country. JFK would not be able to anything with out the Pope’s approval. If people cherished their freedom they needed to “wake up” and be sure he was not elected.
Yup- been there heard that!

June 9, 2008 Paul writes:

The Anti-Christ is among us. The mark of the beast.

June 9, 2008 Schratboy, Boulder CO writes:

These self-important idiots just create more and more laws to justify their existence and think NOTHING of the consequences. The idea of any group being required, mortgage or otherwise, is repugnant.

June 9, 2008 Kody writes:

Commie? You hacks really need to read up before you insult. Communism is branch off from socialism that aims to create a classless society. Educate yourself please. Spewing O’Reillyisms really does nothing to prove a point. Its just spreads the hate.

And for the Ron Paul lovers. That whack jobs wants to throw into a state of extreme nationalism that pre-dates the Declaration of Independence. His ideas makes sense in theory, and if you used any one or two of his ideas the results would most likely be positive in the short term. You can’t just take one of two ideas, you have to look at the whole way of thinking. The guy is a loon!

June 9, 2008 ColonelLeftTard writes:

Commie? You hacks really need to read up before you insult. Communism is branch off from socialism that aims to create a classless society. Educate yourself please. Spewing O’Reillyisms really does nothing to prove a point. Its just spreads the hate.

And for the Ron Paul lovers. That whack jobs wants to throw into a state of extreme nationalism that pre-dates the Declaration of Independence. His ideas makes sense in theory, and if you used any one or two of his ideas the results would most likely be positive in the short term. You can’t just take one of two ideas, you have to look at the whole way of thinking. The guy is a loon!

June 9, 2008 Brian, CA writes:

Some of you are the exact reason we have these issues. Comments like “wow, I can’t believe it is coming from the Left.” Do any of you even know what the “Left” and “Leftism” stands for?

left-?wing adjective

(having opinions which are) radical, socialist or communist

Obama is a Marxist, if you can’t see that then you are truly a moron.

June 9, 2008 T.S. Atlanta writes:

I happened on this article by chance and after reading a few posts, I decided to reply. I am a fingerprint examiner and compare fingerprints from crime scenes to fingerprint cards. For the life of me, I cannot see how this is infringing on someone’s privacy or liberties. The mortgage industry created half of the problems in the economy we are facing today, as Americans. In fact, it affects the entire world financial institutions. Fingerprints are unique to each individual and permanent. It is used as means of identification throughout the world. You have to give fingerprints to cash a check in banking institutions. There are biometric scanners being tested in grocery stores to speed check out. Frankly, with all of the identity theft I see in my line of work, I would gladly opt in to being identified by my fingerprint. Why? Because it is mine and nobody else has one that looks exacly the same. I don’t feel that my “civil liberties” are being violated by having my prints taken. Need I remind everyone, unless you go around all day wearing gloves, your prints are being left everywhere you touch without you even knowing it. So, who cares if they create a national registry for the mortgage industry. If you are on the up and up, then there is nothing to worry about. Just another measure I feel, is being put in place to help protect us all, as Americans.

June 9, 2008 Brian, CA writes:

Some of you are the exact reason we have these issues. Comments like “wow, I can’t believe it is coming from the Left.” Do any of you even know what the “Left” and “Leftism” stands for?

left-wing adjective

(having opinions which are) radical, socialist or communist

Obama is a Marxist, if you can’t see that then you are truly a moron.

June 9, 2008 Mike M, Boston writes:

And these are the SAME people that carp about monitoring FOREIGN phone calls to and from the USA that can help prevent another 9/11? Next they’ll want a chip implanted under the skin of every newborn infa …. er wait, they’re already talking about that too aren’t they? Where Hillary is just another vanilla Marxist wannabe, Obama IS the real deal comrade!

June 9, 2008 Kev writes:

Do I have to register my fingerprint if I already have a biochip implanted in my forehead? There is no real differance between the Dems and Rep. They both want to control you, it’s just a matter of how to do it

June 9, 2008 Gordito Mojito writes:

I like the micro-chip in the wrist idea. This will cut down on fraud and protect us from ourselves.

Equality at the Expense of Liberty is Communism.

June 9, 2008 Obama Supports Earmark to Housing Bill that Creates National Fingerprint Registry writes:

[…] wonder where all the anti-Patriot Act people are now?  So many times on sites like Digg, Broaband Reports, Washington Post and others I’ve heard […]

June 9, 2008 BlueMax372, Florida writes:

I’m all for starting a recall petition for Mellow Mel Martinez. With Republicans like him, who needs socialists?

June 9, 2008 ED-OHIO writes:

Checked with all my Democratic friends and relatives and can`t find one who says they are going to vote for Obama. Are they lying or is he in big trouble? How about our Democratic Congress, who said if we elected them they would fix high gas prices when it was $2.25/gallon. They are making a Bush`s third term and a Republican Congress looking better and better. Too bad Bush isn`t running again.

June 9, 2008 kelly, tx writes:

you people are retarded. they want to fingerprint individuals who WORK for the mortgage industry - not fingerprint every American. And as an individual who works for the mortgage industry, someone who handles people’s financial information daily, I don’t see it as a bad thing. This is no different then employers drug-testing their employees.

June 9, 2008 Jim In NY writes:

What are you so worried about? If your a law abiding person give it up..your already controlled. Stop crying. If I were you i would be more worried about what your government is up to.Life as we knew it is over.. Its poor and rich..Fall in line..

June 9, 2008 Jason, Fort Lauderdale, Florida writes:

T.S. Atlanta; First, just because the mortgage industry created the problem doesn’t warrant the government infringing on law-abiding citizen’s right-to-privacy. Second, if you want to voluntarily offer your fingerprints to the government agency of your choosing, that’s your right, it’s also my right to refuse to do so. Third, I may go around touching things and in the process leave my fingerprints behind, but I have committed no crime in the past and therefore, the government should have no way of tracking those prints back to me. Ever seen the Minority Report? eerily similar.

I guess you would also agree that if you’ve done nothing wrong than what’s the harm in the government taking your DNA while they’re searching for a murder/rape suspect. Or how about them coming into your home just to take a look around? Or stopping your car to rummage through your trunk? If you’ve done nothing wrong, you should have no problem with that.

June 9, 2008 Sean, Houston, Tx writes:

The end times as stated by the bible. Earthquakes will happen in places that have not seen them before, a one world currency will come about, we will all be required to have an identification to purchase or trade anything, great famine will come over the world. Falling dollar, global catastrophies, high fuel prices and food shortages have all been predicted in the bible. Should any of this suprise you?

June 9, 2008 Jimmy - Coppell, TX writes:

If we are going to require fingerprints and drug tests to apply for and and in some cases keep a job, why not require fingerprints and drug tests for those people drawing unemployment and welfare checks? Or for that matter people seeking free health care? We have too many people taking advantage of a liberal system and most of them are politicians (both sides of the room). They are pandering to people who are desperate for help just to get their vote. I think Texas should once again be a Republic. No state income tax and a right to work.

June 9, 2008 Brian, Colorado Springs, CO writes:

“Paul writes:
The Anti-Christ is among us. The mark of the beast.”

So that is what McCain’s skin graph was for? WOW!

June 9, 2008 Randolph Phillips, Shiloh, GA, USA writes:

Of course, Obama supports fingerprint registry. It’s the collectivist way. He’s a marxist, he believes in government control. Remember Lenin, Stalin, Mao? He’s their political descendant.

June 9, 2008 Chris, Michigan writes:

As most of you should know, anyone who works in (or even marginally for) the Securities industry has their fingerprints nationally registered. Expanding the registry to include the Mortgage industry is not that big of a deal.

June 9, 2008 Phillip J Hubbell - Omaha writes:

First of all, the people of the United States are not going to wake up. The parasite class has exceeded the host class and they can now vote themselves access to your assets. It mob rule and Obama will be doing the bidding of the mob as they will have put him into power. To bad really…this was once a nice country.

June 9, 2008 Jim, WV writes:

Legislation yields inflammatory CEI analysis yields misleading blog post yields conspiracy theorist responses. The bill doesn’t create a national fingerprint registry.

Here’s another way of looking at the bill:

“Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) on Wednesday introduced a bill that would create national licensing standards for mortgage brokers and lenders, and a national database for consumers to check credentials of brokers and lenders.

“‘Today, there are no national standards for mortgage brokers and lenders,’ Feinstein said in the release. ‘And there is only a thin patchwork of regulation by the states. This has allowed unsavory lenders and brokers to take advantage of borrowers, and contributed to the subprime mortgage crisis. This legislation would reverse that. It would ensure that every mortgage broker and lender in the United States is trained, licensed, and has no record of impropriety. This will help boost confidence in our lending system and protect consumers.’”

Argue against regulation if you choose, but leave out the histrionics about chip implants and communist conspiracies — they insult actual policy analysis and informed debate.

June 9, 2008 Kenny Eden Prairie MN writes:

This is just another one of many examples of anti-americanism. Obama is for fingerprinting us, but against all of Bush’s ideas on how to fight terrorism, even though both violate our freedoms of privacy.
I would compare this to the ACLU way of protecting atheism, illegals, criminals, pedophiles, the list goes on and on, but then they dont protect regular americans

June 9, 2008 F. Reedom writes:

Hello People: time for a lesson. Mortgage brokers do not set policy on who gets a loan. Suprised? yeah, well, shock number 2. it’s not the Banker who tells them how to write the paper and does the due dillegence either. Wow? who could it be? Hmmm. THINK! It’s the Fed! So who gets the blame for not dropping rates in April ‘07 when there was time to stop this? Gee, could it be the FED? And so now you demonize the messenger who lent you the money you couldn’t wait to get, and not the politcians who refused to drop the rates when there was still time? (Check MSNB archives)
More Regulation will result in your loans being denied; credit elitists and arrogant fellow travelers will find soon enough their own soup line in this Depression ( yes, sorry to break it, but it IS a Depression ) If you don’t lend to the masses you’re home won’t be worth a burrow’s assets. Politicians aren’t lenders, and loans don’t fly outta monkeys butts. You people who want regulations are gonna get the banking sector you deserve,and suprise, banks have an insitutional aversion to long term loans. When John Doe can’t get a loan, you, Mr. High and Mighty,won’t be able to sell your home and will face foreclosure and the bread line. That’s called Economics, folks.

June 9, 2008 L.M. writes:

I don’t necessarily agree with it, but the SEC already requires all brokers, exchange members, etc. to be fingerprinted. Why should mortgage brokers be any different?

June 9, 2008 Brian - Wisconsin writes:

Jason from Fort Lauderdale - Thank you. Well stated.

Benjamin Franklin:
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.”

June 9, 2008 Irishspacemonk, Portland OR writes:

Perhaps when you have an industry that attracts a lot of unsavory schemes that prey on the uniformed, it’s not such a bad idea. When you get ripped off by a mortgage company, and you have no way of tracking down who sold you a bad bill of goods, you’ll probably be glad there was some accountability and oversight.

June 9, 2008 Tom in Mohnton PA writes:

Just EXACTLY what is it going to take to wake-up Americans understanding our very FREEDOM is at a high risk of being LOST with ANY form of LIBERAL LEADERSHIP in our blessed country? We’re going to lose American GREATNESS along with American EXCEPTIONALISM!

June 9, 2008 A. Lendel writes:

You’ll take my fingerprints over my dead body!

June 9, 2008 Brian, CT writes:

proof that Dems are the ones that believe in big government. And to think Liberals where complaining about the patriot act…which is actually usuful and meant to protect us and fight terrorism.

God help us if that marxist in democrats’ clothing is elected is elected.

June 9, 2008 Jennifer, SC writes:

Well, I work in the securities industry and upon applying for my licensing to sell investments, had to submit my fingerprints to the SEC. Now, whether they have kept those in a database or not, I have no clue. I can see where the government is coming from in requiring people involved in real estate (which is an investment) to be fingerprinted and have a background check in order to maintain consistency with the investment industry, BUT I feel there is absolutely no need to maintain them in a registry after the initial check. I only hope that the government doesn’t overstep its bounds by requiring everyone register their fingerprints. You have a choice right now about whether you want to sacrifice your fingerprint data to work in a certain industry, but when the day comes where everyone is required to submit fingerprint data simply to be databased, THAT will be when the government will have completely overstepped its bounds.

June 9, 2008 Liz, Tennessee writes:

Fingerprinting all the teachers worked well didn’t it? Not a day goes by without a teacher being caught trying to molest a student and then what happens? They move to another state and do it again. The fingerprinting stopped NOTHING.

This isn’t about the mortgage industry, it is about a national database. They have no way to track the fingerprints of all these people anymore than they have been able to track teachers.

If they want to protect consumers as they claim, they should ALL resign and let us get a Congress in there which will close our borders and drill for oil in our country. We have foreign countries drilling 50 miles off our coasts and STILL the CLUELESS Congress tries to appease the enviro-wackos……..

June 9, 2008 Liz, Tennessee writes:

In just one year Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following. A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock
And mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 7% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it! A change for the worse and they are adding new bills everyday to take our money and our freedoms.

Remember it’s Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what’s handed to him.

Quote of the Day……..’My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.’ — Barack Obama

AND ON TAXES>>>>>>>

Taxes…Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.

www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75 K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates.

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can’t wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don’t even know what happened.

June 9, 2008 George Kastanza, NYC writes:

I don’t know what all the hub-bub is about here. You clowns seem to think that one of these people is any different than the other. That “electing” one over the other is going to change anything. I’ve got news for you, it will not. Obama, Hillary, MCSame (or 4 more years of Bush for that matter) - nothing will change. A giant toilette has been flushed and we are the turd. We’ve left the side of the bowl and our rate of revolution is increasing. It’s only a matter of time before we’re so dizzy that it won’t matter anymore.

If you think fingerprinting is bad, wait till they start chipping people. It’s coming - MARK my words, pardon the pun.

Hey, how about them gas prices?

George Kastanza
Vandelay Industries, INC.

June 9, 2008 Matt from Texas writes:

Just read the Audacity of Hope… Then tell me if you think this guy should run the greatest Democracy on the planet.

June 9, 2008 Faye Las Vegas writes:

Elect Obama and we get four years of DARKNESS!!! Is that what we want????

June 9, 2008 TWO WAR VET, NY writes:

Why stop with fingerprints? How about a DNA registry?

Idiots!

June 9, 2008 Sam, Boston MA writes:

And so it begins. Next it will be bankers, bus drivers, police, and soon we’ll all be either chipped, or fingerprinted or our DNA will be on file for, “the protection” of people. This well-intentioned program will in the end be evil. We need to starve government and get them out of our lives. Vote McCain for a tiny bit better candidate (but not that much)!

June 9, 2008 Andrew writes:

Heck, 90% of Obama’s supporters have already been finger printed for one reason or another - of course he would support it.

June 9, 2008 Bill, FL writes:

Lets see if he’s interested in fingerprinting of all residents of public housing?!? THEN the howling of injustice will begin!

June 9, 2008 Manny Ramirez, ID writes:

I don’t like the looks of this Obama fellow.

Brian Darling, on the other hand. I like the way that guy thinks. I’d vote for him.

June 9, 2008 John Florida writes:

There is a rumor afoot that Mbombo is the antichrist.

June 9, 2008 Dan writes:

And today Hussein Obama stated he wanted to BAIL OUT everyone who irresponsibly bought a house that they could NOT afford or were too stupid to not read the terms while people like myself who bought a house they could afford and make their payments should PAY FOR THE losers who cannot! Screw this communist pig. I really hope people aren’t stupid enough to vote for him. We will be plunged into a depression like you’ve never known if his plans are put into place. You think Bush has us in debt? It will look like pocket change when this guy (who Hamas supports) is done.

June 9, 2008 Derek, Austin writes:

it passed 19-2 in committee. So all those who are yelling about how evil Obama is because of this, why don’t you mention the others? Besides, as many have listed here, fingerprinting is not a new thing for industries like this. Those in securities have had to, this is a similiar business

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

Kody said “Once all you washed up, inverted thinking, self serving, blind faith loving, hypocrite, faux-patriots die off ” Spoken like a true peace loving genius. ( a mirror would be handy Kody)

June 9, 2008 vloxy, dallas writes:

suicide is an out

June 9, 2008 Roy Dallas writes:

Mark,
you comment about ending a democracy is a bit off the mark. We are and have always been a republic. Democracy is where the citizen vote on every issue; a republic elect representatives to vote for them. Look at the mess or representatives have made of the republic!

June 9, 2008 Alfalfa writes:

The capitalist system of democracy is devouring itself. The short-run experiment is on the precipice of failure as it’s peoples silently proclaim that God is dead.

June 9, 2008 Matthew, Delaware writes:

How is this ruining our freedoms? You can’t get a ‘real job’ almost anywhere without getting fingerprinted.

June 9, 2008 MJ in California writes:

I am a licensed real estate broker who specializes in mortgage origination, and I also happen to have a California notary commission (license)…a requirement to be a licensed notary in California is that you be fingerprinted (the license is granted through the office of the California Secretary of State), and I received my commission 6 years ago, so this fingerprinting thing is nothing new to me.

That being said, I do have issue with the so-called ‘mortgage meltdown/subprime crisis’ being blamed on people like myself (brokers).

It is the investors on Wall Street who created the loan programs that got some homeowners in trouble, they then marketed said programs to brokers and lenders, who used the programs to get people into the properties they wanted or the cash out of their equity they wanted/needed.

Albeit there were some brokers and/or loan officers who did not make sure that their client fully understood that the pay option ARM or other adjustable rate mortgage (ARM) is something they should keep a close eye on and/or have a game plan to get out of when it becomes adjustable should the index it was tied to rise sharply (in particular the subprime ones that had really high margins), not all people in this business are shady and/or have no consideration of the long-term for the borrower (well over 50% of my business is repeat customers and their referrals, so a well taken care of customer is a must).

I guess what I’m trying to say is; don’t just place blame on the brokers… the investors, banks/lenders, and customers had a hand in this stuff as well.

Just my .02

June 9, 2008 NYKevin, Boston writes:

Employees of Banks and Broker/Dealers are already printed, as are Lawyers, Doctors, teachers, cops and firemen and many other professions, so is that a big deal? I think not.

The Term “National Registry” is designed to cause concern. Isn’t there alredy some central place where prints are kept and processed?

I’m not seeing any injury if they do this. If someone can tell me what the harm is I’ll reconsider

June 9, 2008 Diane writes:

Eff it. I will never agree to this. Idiots.

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

hmmmnnn…National ID? Chips in your hand? National fingerprint registree? Too bad they couldn’t convice everyone to carry a chip in thier pockets, one that might monitor thier where-abouts within a few meters, one that might even tell them who and how often we communicate with. Maybe even et us to pay for the privalage? We’ed never stand for it! Never! Not Here in the US!! (unless we got “free roll over” minits) Can You Hear Me Now?

June 9, 2008 KB, Virginia writes:

Those who say “my state is already doing it, so what’s the big deal?” are missing the point. The big deal is that States have the right to decide when, if ever, fingerprints should be collected. The Federal government has no such right. And for Obama and the Dems to scream about Bush and his “cronies” invading our privacy should make you realize the liberal “saviors” aren’t all they’d like you to think they are.

June 9, 2008 GW writes:

Alfalfa, this “short lived experiment” happens to be the oldest standing system in the world, all have fallen yet we, alone, remain. God has Blessed the USA.

June 9, 2008 Dan writes:

Let’s see, Obama believes that the Government owns everything you earn and should be spent as they see fit. He feels more welfare programs should be developed for the lazy and more of my money should go to these people. Who the hell does he think he is? Punishing people who earn a living and work hard and make their mortgage payments on time? What a COMMUNIST. Talk about the biggest dreg and loser people could have ever come up with for a candidate.

And don’t even get me going on Black Liberation theology..

Healthcare: Lazy pigs who don’t work will have the same healthcare that I do but I should pay for it because I do work? Again that is Communism. If you are for him that is what you are for.

June 9, 2008 Matt writes:

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!

And some Paul supporters are pushing this guy? Bad confused sheeple!

June 9, 2008 Nermin, Chicago writes:

I worked for Investment bank last year. First day I started there I was required to take a fingerprint as a part of the “Criminal Background Check” - no one accused of fraud is allowed to work for an Investment Bank. I am told that the regular Banks do the same. Could this real-estate fingerprinting be a part of the same thing - an effort to protect consumer from fraudulent “Mortgage Originators” - by comparing records to the FBI criminal DB?

June 9, 2008 munge, San Francisco writes:

I never thought I’d see the day where the unelectable, geriatric Republican candidate would be elevated to the presidency — again. We Democrats have got to finally understand that electoral history clearly states that it takes empathy with *all* voters who - identify - as - Democrats in order to be elected president. Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, Truman….whether by accident, or design, or merely a part of ‘fortunate but clueless’ majority, it’s just the way it is. If Obama is the logical heir of Kennedy, remember that Kennedy won by ballot-box stuffing in Chicago (and yes, Bush Florida etc) — only Clinton, Carter and Johnson won in clear by reassuring the ‘fortunate but clueless’ majority that the White House and the Administration would ‘reflect’ their concerns, for lack of a more tactful way to put it. Those of you who “Believe” that we are beyond that hegemony are sadly misguided.

June 9, 2008 Irishspacemonk, Portland, OR writes:

Most of the conservative, right-wing comments here are pretty hilarious. Isn’t it Bush and his cohorts that insist that wiretaps don’t need warrants? talk about invasion of privacy. Getting finger printed for a job in a particular sector is hardly a big deal … you have the freedom to choose a profession with less privacy intrusion, but no one deserves private conversations recorded with justification.

June 9, 2008 Dennis , moncure, nc writes:

All I can say people is take advantage of your 2nd amendment rights while you can!…………we are going to need them!

June 9, 2008 MarkD, Orange CA writes:

Real Estate appraisers have to be fingerprinted, why not lenders? Appraisers cannot be convicted felons, maybe if the same applied to lenders some things would be different.

June 9, 2008 Javier, Tamarac writes:

Ok guys, did you actually read the release? How is requiring mortgage brokers to submit fingerprints creating a National Registry? Are there really THAT many people working in the industry. I agree about Obama being a control freak that will socialize our government, but I don’t think this is a springboard to sweeping identification reforms.

June 9, 2008 Ron Paul Blog - Obama Co-Sponsors Bill to Create National Fingerprint Registry writes:

[…] Here is the story from the Heritage Foundry Blog. […]

June 9, 2008 Josh Taber, Palmer Lake, CO writes:

OH GREAT! :/ What’s next? Electronic chip in everyone? Scary!

June 9, 2008 Concerned Citizen, DC writes:

This is no different than any person who works in an industry critical to the well-being of the nation and other citizens to be thoroughly vetted and checked for criminal pasts. Either way a case can be made for regular folk to be similarly vetted as well. Do you REALLY know who that contractor working on your home is? How about the power company employee? Your babysitter? I say fingerprint them all and weed out the known crooks! And if any turn into crooks later you’ve already got their prints.

Of course, that brings up the old question: who will watch the watchers???

June 9, 2008 Tal Farlow Milledgeville GA writes:

NUTS

June 9, 2008 ricardo maxwell, Orange Park, FL writes:

It won’t be enough to reject the Marxist/socialist O’bama (the Irish Candidate, LOL) because you will still the get the socialist lite, McCain. America must also reject any and all liberals, Democrats, and “moderate”, Country club, spend happy RINO’s (Republicans In Name Only).

June 9, 2008 Jane, Florida writes:

Get your facts straight John. The only domestic calls the government listens too are those that come from out of country terrorists, you have a problem with that? I don’t. But I do have a problem with being cataloged.

June 9, 2008 Roy Dallas writes:

Munge, For your information Clinton never won a majority; he won a pularity. Also remember that it was Gore who took the case to the Supreme Court and even the “liberal” justices voted against him. The constitution says that the electorial college selects a president, not the number of votes cast. The DNC decided that certain votes don’t count. If they did count HRC would be the democratice nominee. Obama makes the case the it would not be fair to count Michigan since he took his name off the ballot. He also states that he has good judgement. Had he good judgement he would not have taken his name off the ballot.

June 9, 2008 1round writes:

Who ever said Bush was a conservative?

June 9, 2008 Roy Dallas writes:

Irishspacemonk, Portland, OR

Why should a warrant be obtained to listen to a terrorist in another country; or in this country?

For you taht blame Bush for the Patriot Act please remember he was against it; the dems were the ones who insisted on creating it. Luckily Bush threatened to veto it unless they toned it down. What we have is the toned down version.

June 9, 2008 Smart American Woman, France writes:

All of your anti-Obama posts are a bunch of bull. Run scared people, because the criminals will be caught!

In the banking industry it is common practice to be fingerprinted. In certain industries it is required and the right thing to do.
Sen. Obama above all people protect civil rights, it’s his whole passion.

Why are you all so afraid to be protected from those who escape penalty and who steal money from the little people? The banking industry and realestate industry has caused our markets and our dollar to be worthless. Someone needs to be held responsible.

You’re acting like babies. Grow up, no one is taking away your right to freedon - just your right to be crooked and get away with it.

June 9, 2008 ricardo maxwell writes:

Sara NYC: First, get a dictionary. Second, learn English.
I am making a guess here that your point is a fingerprint registry can be equated with a citizen registry that can be equated with a voter registry. Well, Sara, they are 3 different things. A fingerprint (or set of prints) should only be mandatory for criminals or suspected criminals. Other fingerprint registries are used for missing children or for voluntary background checks. This requiring fingerprints for mortgage brokers in just bs. It is part of the smoke and mirrors the left wing is using to place the blame for the mortgage crisis on lenders. If the liberals weren’t crying to “Give EVERYBODY a home loan or you are discriminating”, we wouldn’t be in this mess. So they got what they asked for. Relaxed rules made it easier for deadbeats and speculators with little or no capital or credit to purchase homes.
We already have a citizen registry of sorts, Social Security! And your number is everywhere by now.
Voter registration rolls are kept by county, I believe, and contain the names and addresses of the legally registered voters. They require an official ID to register and one should be required to produce an official ID to vote.

June 9, 2008 Rancho Del Valkyrie, St. David, AZ. writes:

Can You spell G-E-O-R-G-E S-O-R-O-S?

June 9, 2008 Shawna, Austin writes:

Last time I cashed a check at Bank of America, they collected my fingerprint. So it’s OK for the financial industry to fingerprint customers, but not for the people to have access to the financial industry’s info? Hmmm. Oh, and government wiretapping - that’s still OK, right?

June 9, 2008 The Outlander writes:

Democrat and presidential candidate Barack Obama supports this proposal and in doing so demonstrates his utter contempt for Freedom. As the presumptive candidate for the Democratic Party his actions speak for them as well.

Thank you for your time.

http://theoutlander.blogstream.com

June 9, 2008 kirk writes:

Why mortgage lending and real estate workers?

Anyway, everyone should buy a gun now for protection. If this guy is harmed in office, there’ll be riots like we’ve never seen. No one is thinking about that. That possible terror event will be the greatest we face. Thanks media for pushing this guy on the American people.

June 9, 2008 Teresa, Mpls writes:

HA.. you think that is bad - this is just the beginning…

And please, if you will, come and visit Minneapolis where our Mayor RT Rybak has issued a new ordinance that we cannot leave our vehicles idling for more than 3 minutes unless we are in traffic!
LOL - Try that when its zero degrees F. and the ice is so thick on your windshield it takes 20 minutes to unthaw.

It’s just unbelievable, all of it.

We in trouble people - unless we stand up. Big Brother Cometh!

June 9, 2008 Tawine, delaware writes:

Someone mentioned that police officers will have to be finger printed next? Is this a joke b/c they are already in the database. Also, there are many brokers and lenders that prey on those that aren’t knowledgeable of the home buying process. Had a friend who was told she could use land inherited as collateral but later found out that it could possibly have a lien (old records) and the deposit she made was gone, gone, gone… Now the broker that she paid all her fees to is MIA and now she has to come up with the money to do this all over again. That person is probably robbing someone else right now.

June 9, 2008 Fed Up Senior -- Jersey Shore writes:

And here all this time, I thought that “Big Brother” was white!

June 9, 2008 Bob, Chicago, IL writes:

Why shouldn’t they get the same Big Brother treatment the rest of us get? I had to give full hand prints to the FBI to adopt a child. I later found that my hand prints had been added to a national database of terrorists and criminals, later to become an international database. No good deed should go unpunished, eh?

Soon they will be building DNA databases just like the UK. If there is a rape or murder in the UK they collect DNA from everyone in the city. They say it’s “voluntary”, but if you refuse then you instantly become a suspect, because “why wouldn’t an innocent person want their DNA collected and permanently added to a national database?” Yeah, what possible reason would there be for that?

And to those who spout “I’m innocent, what do I have to hide?”, don’t forget that DNA has also gotten hundreds of innocent people off death row. Most people, police and politicians included, could not withstand minute scrutiny. As free people we shouldn’t be expected to.

June 9, 2008 Paul R. Bear writes:

Fingerprinting free people not involved in sensitive and classified work or incarcerated in the prison system is un-American and evil. It’s one more attempt to control and condition us to Big Brother. Look at England. That’s where our big government liberals want to take us. It wills start with the housing people, who are unpopular right now. Then it will expand and creep til’ we’re all under it. Fingerprints don’t stop crime and wouldn’t prevent the LEGAL manipulation of the housing market that led to the problems we’re suffering from now. Don’t support this insanity.
Enjoy-Paul R. Bear

June 9, 2008 Hans, Charlotte writes:

This is about a specific industry which has grown fat with the greed of culprits and fraud, not general liberty infringement. As far as that goes, do you think it’s not an infringement to have your picture taken for a driver’s license or have to be stripped at airport security? A lot of people on this site are quite paranoid. If this is infringement, at least it will be based on transparent law, not secreted behind closed doors or a rendition locations as perpetrated by You Know Who!!

June 9, 2008 Ralph Cavolo writes:

Said the officer to the citizen,” Where are your papters?, Where are your stars?” Circa 1939, any Ghetto in Eastern Europe. Didn’t work then, Mr. Obama, It won’t work now.

June 9, 2008 Matthew, Florida writes:

What’s the fuss? Fingerprint registration has been required of employees in all industries that handle financial transactions EXCEPT mortgages since 1934. See 1934 SEC ACT.

This includes bankers, brokers, financial planners etc. The mortgage industry, because of the real estate lobby, has kept itself exempt for too long. If the mortgage industry had their own SEC, people would not have been sold the junk mortgages they now own.

Fingerprint registry is not new. It is many, many decades old. Don’t let the Real Estate lobby package this as something it isn’t. They should have never been exempt from this practice in the first place. They are using your niavity to make a good solution look bad.

June 9, 2008 Stormin Norman in Phoenix writes:

Assuming these sky-is-falling posts are on the level as opposed to being trolls, my question is, Could y’all be any more paranoid? Do you wear aluminum foil hats to keep out the laser beams? Did you all get dropped on your heads — repeatedly — as children? My God, stop embarrassing yourselves.

June 9, 2008 Aaron, Texas writes:

James Bond,
So it is the mortgagee’s industries fault for people taking loans they can’t afford??? These people are in a bind because they are greedy and trying to keep up with the Jones’. Take responsibility for your own actions and don’t borrow more than you can afford to pay back. I for one wonder why Obama says he is black when he is as much white as he is black???? Now that sounds racist.

June 9, 2008 Leslie, Madison writes:

Investment advisors, stock brokers and other financial professionals have been required to provide fingerprints and submit to background checks for decades. Mortgage industry personnel should be subject to the same standards, as well as more rigorous licensing requirements and continuing education.

June 9, 2008 JEFF, Lisle, IL writes:

just more government that will do nothing except spend more of our money. I hope Obama wins so I can quit my job & get a job that pays cash, since we’ll be getting free healthcare.

June 9, 2008 Matt, Philadelphia writes:

Even if the mortgage and real estate industries are bursting with villains and scoundrels how is it going to help to have their finger prints on file with the government?
Why not food workers? That way they could lift the print off of your 1/4 pounder to find out who gave you hepatitis. Or the cashier at the coffee shop? Just in case she doesn’t give you the right amount of change back.
Why is this necessary? What is the objective? how will it improve the industry?

June 9, 2008 Barack Hussien Obama, Washington, DC writes:

Hey, I think this is a pretty good idea!

June 9, 2008 TL, CA writes:

Read Carefully, It applies to the real-estate and mortgage worders, Not home buyers. If you can’t read then don’t post! Perfectly fair, kind of like security clearance. If you are charged to handle hundred of thousand of dollars you should be held accountable!

June 9, 2008 TL, CA writes:

Read Carefully, It applies to the real-estate and mortgage workers, Not home buyers. If you can’t read then don’t post! Perfectly fair, kind of like security clearance. If you are charged to handle hundred of thousand of dollars you should be held accountable!

June 9, 2008 Susan, Kansas City writes:

Am I living in the USSR now?

June 9, 2008 fil writes:

OBAMA is an a$$. The news should quit focusing on him so much. He is not God!

June 9, 2008 SirBillington writes:

This is mild compared to what the simpletons on the Supreme Court have done to our rights in recent years.

June 9, 2008 Dennis,nc writes:

What David from Maryland misses and the other pro obama posters miss is this; Taken by itself the registration of mortgage industry workers is fairly innocuous in itself but if it’s put in the context of all his other programs and proposals it’s just more proof of increasing government control ie socialism. Let’s see he just called for a windfalls profit tax on the oil companies. Socialized medicine. He and his party are for the most massive tax hike in the history of the country but a factor of 3, “the fairness” doctrine to stifle free speech they don’t agree with…does anyone see a pattern here? Like I said before take advantage of your 2nd amendment rights while you still have them….and maybe you obamites should read ayn rand ….in particular, Atlas Shrugged because that’s where were heading.

June 9, 2008 LIBERTARIAN USA writes:

OMG people please vote Libertarian. I am so sick of these wishy washy wannabe politicians playing with our rights. People getting fired for wizardy in Florida? A man in California sentenced for laws that don’t even really exist and his peers are no where near him? Obscene? Who’s right is it to say what is and isn’t obscene? I think people who try to squelch the rights of others are obscene. When will they be arrested?

Vote Libertarian and stop getting your rights taken away from you. Stop making them police what you say or do with consenting adults. It’s no one else’s business what you do or what you buy. They’re probably the biggest offenders. LOL

June 9, 2008 Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! writes:

[…] The corporate media does not believe Obama’s backing of this bill warrants mention, but the Heritage Foundation does: Sens. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) authored a bill (with 11 […]

June 9, 2008 Annie P. Phoenix, AZ writes:

If the republicans were behind this liberals would be rioting in the streets, but when a liberal suggests an impingement on freedom it’s a good idea and much needed. The extremes of both parties will be the ruination of this country. Hey guys! Wake up! This isn’t baseball. This is our country. Let’s do the right thing, not root for our team. Our liberties are more important than that, and each party wants to nick away at them in their own way.

June 9, 2008 mike c writes:

Those of you arguing about how this is a attack on our rights from democrats, or viewing this as a reason to vote one party or the other are missing the point. The people in power whether they be democrat or republican want you to have as little freedom and privacy as possible. Whether it is out of a concern for the security of our country or it is an evil secret govt plot, it is not in the interest of these people that you retain any of the rights promised in the constitution or inheriated through the courts. Most all of our elected leaders fit the classical definition of “fascist”, a person who believes the needs of the state come before the needs of the populace. This is not a partisan issue. The longer we contiue to arbitrarily choose sides and take part in this “left vs right” battle the more we all will lose when looking at the big picture.

June 9, 2008 Moses writes:

Life, liberty, and Property now known as the Pursuit of Happiness.

Those on the Left whine and cry incessantly about the erosion of our liberty yet it’s liberal fascists that have and do the following on a consistent basis.

1) They attack our 1st amendment rights with PC hate speech legislation. They want to silence opposing views, conservative talk radio, USING the power of govt and their so called Fairness Doctrine.

2) They attack our 2nd amendment rights non stop whenever they get the change implying that it was intended for hunting or for militia’s only. Yeah right!

3) Liberal activist judges of the Supreme Court just ERASED our right to private property ownership. Now the govt can seize a private citizens property and give it to another citizen simply if they’d like to increase their tax revenue!

4) Liberals propose that “the right to privacy” includes the right to kill an unborn child in the womb. According to them privacy trumps life I’m sure this is what the founding father’s intended as inalienable rights from our Creator. The right to kill the Creator’s children.

National gun registration, national fingerprint registries, all under the guise of what? Making us safer? Nonsense, this is all about control and an out of control government wishing to seize more power.

Thomas Jefferson said, “The beauty of the 2nd amendment is the only time it will be needed is when the govt tries and take it away from you.” In other words, a non oppressive govt has nothing to fear from an armed electorate. Why is it the Left that’s always trying to disarm our nation?

Without the 1st amendment there is no freedom, without the 2nd amendment there will eventually be no 1st, without private property there can be no liberty, and without life there can be none of the above. Liberal fascists attack the very foundation of our freedom and the useful idiots are too stupid to comprehend it. All they want is more govt control and “free” stuff.

Socialism (free stuff) is the slow road to tyranny. Democrats promise you everything just vote for us and we’ll give you everything you need. Benjamin Franklin said, “Any govt powerful to provide you with everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have.” Makes me sick to see these idiot fools cheering Marxists like Barack Obama and the democrats on.

History will repeat itself and we will all wind up in chains again because the Left keeps turning more and more of our lives over to the tyrannical entity called government! Idiots and fools all of them.

June 9, 2008 Gary Mialocq (Sedona, AZ) writes:

With all the crooked mortgage brokers running around, I’m all for fingerprinting them BEFORE they rip us off.

June 9, 2008 What's the big deal AZ writes:

Who cares? I’m a real estate agent and couldn’t care less if my fingerpints are on file. If you don’t have something to hide then why worry?

June 9, 2008 Adam Lee writes:

Because the Patriot act wiretaps terrorists’ friends and does not establish a fingerprint registry for law abiding Americans? thats the difference.

June 9, 2008 Ryan, MI writes:

THis is another example of the Fed’s taking over a State issue. Bottom line is finger printing is not needed for any job! Why do they think it will solve the problem? It was the Feds who pushed to make it easy for people to get into homes they couldn’t afford. If a person can understand the loan they are getting than they shouldn’t be a homeowner. It’s another example of our elected officals protecting us from all those bad people. Finger printing a loan officer will do nothing to protect the poor home buyer. Maybe if you had to have a downpayment and a decent credit score we wouldn’t be in the mess we are. As for Obama and the rest of his party will be the death of our great nation.

June 9, 2008 Rocky / Washington writes:

The point of it being harmless if you have nothing hide just does not fly. A person is innocent until proven guilty and by no means is a person required to testify against themselves in court. This action is clearly asking each of us to provide a genetic marker to the government so that they can track our lives and our kids lives. What next should we all just go ahead and get the 666 tatoo put on our foreheads right now or wait until Obama says it is OK to proceed with that little task.

June 9, 2008 Mark Sixsixtysix (Pit, Hades) writes:

Obama, thy name is APOLLYON!

June 9, 2008 JT(SLC,Utah) writes:

Great! Here is my fingerprints, DL, SS#, DNA whatever you need to make sure I am not a crook. If you have nothing to hide, why worry?

If we can protect the whole by requiring those who get to control our lives (banks, government, authorities, teachers etc.) by making them fingerprint themselves and enter that in a national registry, I say go for it! The only thing it could do is keep those who do nothing illegal safe and punish those who are criminals. If it is found that someone uses the information inappropriately then that should be take up by my guess is that would be rare compared to those who currently commit crime unabated.

June 9, 2008 worddust writes:

Democrats are Communists Totalitarians pure and simple. Redistribution of wealth, the siezure of “windfall profits” the take over of the entire health care industry and “Hate Crime” Laws that will allow them to jail anyone for anything THEY decide to define as HATE SPEECH or CRIME is definative in this regard. There is no other definition. Senator McCarthy was right and it may be that the only way to protect freedom and property is to physically remove the Communists from government. Of course the fact that Democrats are allowing Iran to arm itself with nukes may result in the destruction of Washington by Al Qeda thereby saving Patriots the hassle of doing it themselves.

June 9, 2008 mike, boston writes:

Ron Paul has ben right all along about this federal government. Most politicians, from both parties are corrupt and care nothing for our freedoms. In the name of convenience they would pool all sorts of data and allow law enforcement access to it without a warrant. This is just a small example of the kind of junk that gets stuffed into legislation all the time.
Are we sheep or are we americans?
I say its time we took our government to task for all the legislation it has enacted that contradicts the constitution.

June 9, 2008 Ryan, MI writes:

This is another example of how extreme Obama really is. He is the most left wing candate we have ever seen and he will take our nation in the same direction Carter did. God help us.

June 9, 2008 SEW writes:

Barry O wants to fingerprint American citizens. He doesn’t want IDs at the voting booth. And he wants terrorists to easily communicate with each other. He will keep America safe, unlike the Evil Bush, even though he can’t even monitor his own website. Friends with Rezko, Wright, Chavez and Ajmadman. Barry 08

June 9, 2008 Matthew, IL writes:

the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves right now. the current path of this country is not what they had in mind.

June 9, 2008 Curtis Wisconsin writes:

That figures.

June 9, 2008 saintknowitall, oklahoma writes:

A government powerful enough to give you everything you need, is powerful enough to take everything you have.
Barry Goldwater

June 9, 2008 FLOYD CHANDLER AZ. writes:

AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH SO SHALL IT BE IN THE END TIME WHO KNOWS OBAMA MAY BE THE BEAST THAT WILL GIVE POWER TO THE ANTI CRIST IT IS HEADED THAT WAY. I KNOW SOME OF YOU WILL CALL ME A END TIME PREACHER , READ IT FOR YOUR SELF IN REVELATIONS.

June 9, 2008 MEF, Pittsburgh writes:

So, some people who work in the financial industry, etc., are currently required to submit fingerprints, correct? And the entities doing the requiring are, for the most part, state agencies, etc.? This bill would make it a Federal requirement—this is a crucial difference! McCain is bad enough in some of his pronouncements, but at least he’s had some real experience in government AND he’s a war hero, no matter what. Obama is a completely inexperienced neophyte who apparently is trying to mix the Constitution with the ideas of Situational Ethics. I say again, do what you can right now to protect your portfolios (oops, only “rich Republicans” have those) and hunker down. God help us.

June 9, 2008 John L., Chicago writes:

Well, now we see the real truth…Feinstein, Martinez and Obama are nothing but Liberal Socialists Pigs. It figures ALL Liberals want Government to control us. Screw these Bastards, especially the three above, this is marxism not freedom. These three fools got to go NOW. They are bad for our Country.

June 9, 2008 BLC, Boston, MA writes:

I can now envision the day when we will face a government that must be removed by the people by other than electoral means.
There IS a reason for the 2nd Amendment!

June 9, 2008 Kwango, Vermont writes:

And the freedom loving leftists, who oppose FISA, wiretaps of terrorists, and wide open borders, can rationalize the finger-printing of American citizens? And why is this a reasonable proposal???